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NEWS LETTER 31 JANUARY 2005

PROGRESS                   

             THE WEBSITE IS UP AND OPERATIONAL, IT CAN BE ACCESSED THROUGH THE SEARCH ENGINES BY TYPING IN SCOUT544PTF.COM, OR PTF 3 RESTORATON PROJECT OR, ASSORTED ASSOCIATED NAMES AND TITLES RELATED TO THE BOAT.  THE SITE WILL SHOW UP AS ‘SEA SCOUT SHIP 5544 – PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT’. IT HAS BEEN A CROSS BETWEEN PULLING TEETH AND PUSH A CHAIN UP HILL, BUT WE ARE ON THE WEB AND WILL BE EXPANDING IN THE FUTURE TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THE PROJECT. 

            THE FUN AND EXCITING PROCESS OF CHIPPING PAINT HAS STARTED, WE ARE ACCUMULATING A NICE COLLECTION OF POLISHED STAINLESS STEEL, BRASS AND BRONZE FITTINGS.  THE FUEL CAPS, TELEPHONE CRADLES, PIPE FITTINGS, RUDDER BEARING SLEEVES, UNDERWATER EXHAUST HOUSINGS, AND ELECTRICAL BOXES ARE IN EXCELLENT SHAPE READY TO BE RE-INSTALLED.  AS THE PARTS ARE CLEAN AND THE PAINT IS REMOVED, WE ARE FINDING MANY HAVE BEEN STAMPED WITH THE LETTERS ‘PTF 3’.

            A COMPUTER HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE WORKSHOP TO KEEP A RUNNING INVENTORY OF THE PARTS THAT ARE BEING PROCESSED THROUGH THE WORKSHOP. THIS WILL GREATLY INCREASE OUR ABILITY TO TRACK PARTS, ESPECIALLY PARTS THAT HAVE TO BE SENT OUT FOR MACHINING. 

            WORK HAS RESUMED ON THE BRIDGE, BOB JUNKINS AND COMPANY ARE INSTALLING CHAMFER STRIPS IN ALL 90 DEGREE CORNER AREAS TO REINFORCE THE CORNER JOINTS AND STIFFEN THE STRUCTURE.  THE WOOD HAS DRIED OUT ENOUGH TO ALLOW RESURFACING WITH RESIN, OVER WHICH CHOPPED MAT WILL BE APPLIED, FOLLOWED BY FINE MESH CLOTH AND GEL COAT.  BOSTON WHALER IS SENDING THEIR LAMINATION SPECIALISTS OVER TO SET UP THE LAMINATION PROCESS FOR THE BOAT THIS WEDNESDAY, 2 FEBRUARY 2005.             

            THE HISTORIC NAVAL SHIPS ASSOCIATION HNSA HAS ANNOUNCED IN THEIR LATEST ISSUE OF ‘ANCHOR WATCH’, IN A HALF PAGE ARTICLE THAT PTF 3 IS A NEW MEMBER OF THE FLEET.  THE ARTICLE FEATURES CHARLES BAYERS PHOTO OF THE ORIGINAL CREW IN DRESS WHITES ON THE FORE DECK OF THE BOAT, ALONG WITH A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT.  

            WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN MAKING IN CONTACTING FLORIDA POLITICIANS REGARDING OUR RANKING BEFORE

THE FLORIDA HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUREAU.  KEEP APPLYING THE PRESSURE, CONTINUE TO CONTACT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL REPRESENTATIVES, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN SHOW THAT THERE IS STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE PRESERVATION OF PTF 3.  THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION, TO BE EFFECTIVE, NOW IS THE TIME TO CONTACT FLORIDA LAWMAKERS. 

CONTACTS FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION RANKING, AFTER 3 YEARS OF MOVING UP THE LIST TO POSITION 59, WE WERE INEXPLICABLY DROPPED TO POSITION 114.

www.myflorida.com

www.leg.state.fl.us  

FLORIDA GOVERNOR                                       DEPUTY SECRETARY

JOHN ‘JEB’ BUSH                                             JUDEE PETTIJOHN

EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR         500 SOUTH BRONOUGH ST

THE CAPITAL                                                    TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399

TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399-0001             850/ 245-6333

850/ 488-4441

 

FLORIDA SECRETARY OF STATE                     ACTING DIR. HISTORICAL RESOURCES

GLENDA E. HOOD                                            FRED GASKE  

500 SOUTH BRONOUGH ST                              500 SOUTH BRONOUGH ST                 

TALLAHASSEE, FL   32399                               TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399

850/ 245-6333                           

 

FLORIDA HISTORICAL COMMISSION – SITTING BOARD THAT RENDERED THE DECISION

 

 DR. JUDITH A BENSE, CHAIRPERSON Ms. SUSAN L. LITTLE

UNIVERSITY OF WEST FLORIDA                      AMELIA ISLAND MUSEUM OF HISTORY

11000 UNIVERSITY PKWY                                1863 OCEAN VILLAGE DR.

PENSACOLA, FL  32514                                    AMEILIA ISLAND, FL 32501

Jbense@uwf.edu                                                rplittle@bellsouth.net

 

Ms. MARION M. ALMY, RPA.                            Mr. CARTER QUINA, AIA.

ARCHEOLOGICAL CONSULTANTS, INC.            QUINA, GROUNDHOFER, ROYAL ARCH.

8110 BLAIKIE COURT, SUITE A             400 WEST ROMANA ST

SARASOTA, FL 34240                                       PENSACOLA, FL 32501

Aci.malmy@comcast.net                                   qgr@qgrarchitects.com

 

Ms. MIMI REID HARDMAN                                 Dr. LARRY E RIVERS

LAKE WALES DEPOT MUSEUM                       DEAN, COLLEGE OF ARTS & SCI.

AND CULTURAL CENTER                                  FLORIDA A & M UNIVERSITY

325 SOUTH SCENIC HIGHWAY                          P.O. BOX 1123

LAKES WALES, FL 33853                                 TALLAHASSEE, FL 32302

Jnanek@cityoflakewales.com                             lerivers55@aol.com

 

Mr. ROBERT C. HUDSON                                  Ms. ELAINE ROMANS

PRES. AND CEO                                              ORTEGA STATION, BOX 89

AVMED HEALTH PLAN                                     JACKSONVILLE, FL 32210

9400 S. DADELAND BLVD, SUITE 108               ceromans@bellsouth.net

MIAMI, FL 33156

Robert.hudson@avmed.org

 

Ms. KELLY LAYMAN                                         Ms. ELLEN UGUCCIONI

IN LAYMAN’S TERMS, INC.                               1115 OBISPO AVE

PUBLIC RELATIONS & GOV. CONSULT.            CORAL GABLES, FL 33134

361 S. COUNTY RD. SUITE H.                           ellen_uguccioni@janus-research.com

PALM BEACH, FL 33480

Klayman@iltcommunications.com 

LOOKING AHEAD           

            WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A HISTORICAL RECORD OF THE BOAT AND WE ARE SEEKING PHOTOS OF THE BOAT OR OF THE FIRST SERIES OF NASTY CLASS BOATS # 3 – 8 THAT HAVE THE EARLY BELOW DECK CONFIGURATION.  THIS WILL ASSIST IN RECREATING FEATURES OF THE BOAT THAT WILL BE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.  WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR ANY HISTORICAL ITEMS RELATED TO THE BOAT, THEY WILL BE COME PART OF THE MUSEUM FOR THE BOAT.  

WE HAVE HAD MANY GREAT SUGGESTIONS IN OUR HUNT FOR THE DECK ORDINANCE, PLEASE KEEP LOOKING I HAVE STARTED TO FOLLOW UP SOME OF THE LEADS, THE REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME,  A SINGLE 40mm GUN WITH MOUNTING RING, .50cal / 81mm MORTAR COMBO, AND TWO 20mm GUNS ARE REQUIRED.  THREE TRIPLE LEG 20mm MOUNTS ARE NEEDED.  

MONEY TREE 

            GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS THE HEAD OF THE FUND RAISING EFFORT AND CAN BE REACHED AT PHONE 407/ 402-0190 AND AT E MAIL: fl1husker@695online.com OR

I CAN BE REACHED AT 800/ 694-7161 AND AT E MAIL: redbarn2@earthlink.net

DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO  BSA TROOP 544 - PTF 3 FUND AND MAILED TO

BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL  32774-0789
 

SCROUNGE DEPT- 

            IF ANYONE HAS A LINE ON A GRANT PROGRAM, WE FALL UNDER MUSEUMS, YOUTH PROGRAM AND YOUTH EDUCATION.  I NEED PHONE NUMBERS AND CONTACTS AS WELL AS WERE TO LOOK FOR THE REQUIREMENTS. 

 FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A FLORIDA NON-PROFIT 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTABLE.
 

TOOLS – TALK TO HARDWARE STORES, WE NEED BELT SANDERS, COMPOUND POWER MITERS, HEAVY ROUTERS, 4 ½ INCH RIGHT ANGLE GRINDERS, ½ INCH DRILLS AND BITS, A SOURCE FOR FIBERGLASS AND RESIN, AND CLEAR PENETRATING EPOXY  SYSTEM (CPES). 

ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com

FEEDBACK -  PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT

redbarn2@earthlink.net


     SINCERELY,
 

                                                  ROBERT MCCRAY
                                                              PROJECT MANAGER

 

BSA TROOP 544, INC;  ROBERT MCCRAY;  1825 W. FRENCH AVE.;  ORANGE CITY, FL 32763; TEL: 800/ 694-7161;  FAX: 386/775-1130;  redbarn2@earthlink.net   

 

NEWSLETTER 31 DECEMBER 2004 

PROGRESS 

            I HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYED THE HOLIDAYS AND WILL HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR.  THINGS SLOWED DOWN AROUND THE BOAT A LITTLE DURING DECEMBER, BUT WE STILL GOT A FEW THINGS DONE.  THE WORK SHOP IS UP AND OPERATING, ATTENTION IS NOW BEING PAID TO THE RECLAIMING AND RESTORATION OF SMALL PARTS AND FITTINGS, THEY ARE BEING CLEANED, ASSESSED FOR USABILITY AND REPAIR.  SOME ALUMINUM PARTS ARE PITTED AND WILL HAVE TO REMANUFACTURED,MOST OF THE BRASS AND STAINLESS STEEL PARTS JUST NEED A GOOD CLEANING, AND A NEW COAT OF PAINT.  ALL ITEMS ARE BEING TAGGED AND SORTED, THEY WILL BE SHELVED AND STORED TILL THE TIME COMES TO RE-INSTALL THE PARTS BACK ON THE BOAT. 

            THE DEMOLITION OF THE INTERIOR OF THE BOAT IS NEARLY COMPLETE, NOW THE FUN STARTS, ALL OF THE OLD CRACKED PAINT HAS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE WOOD SURFACES.  ONCE THIS IS COMPLETED, THEN WE CAN CHECK EACH PLANK FOR IT’S CONDITION AND DETERMINE THE TYPE OF REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT.  WE KNOW THAT THE TWO CHINE BOARDS HAVE TO BE REPLACED, THEY HAVE WICKED WATER THROUGH THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BOARDS.  THE NOSE OF THE BOAT WILL BE STRIPPED OF PLANKING BACK TO THE 2nd WATER TIGHT BULKHEAD, LEAVING THE FRAME EXPOSED, THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF NEW CHINE BOARDS AND NEW PLANKING FOR THE NOSE OF THE BOAT.

          DECEMBER ALSO SAW A BOY SCOUT COURT OF HONOR CONVENED AT THE BOAT, THIS PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VETERANS WORKING ON THE BOAT TO SEE THE BOY SCOUTS RECEIVE AWARDS AND NEW RANK POSITIONS. THE SCOUTS SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON EACH MERIT BADGE, SOME OF THE AWARDS WERE EARNED WHILE WORKING ON THE PTF 3 PROJECT. AFTERWARDS, THE DESSERT TABLE BECAME THE CENTER OF ATTENTION AND THE CONTENTS QUICKLY DISAPPEARED.  SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE SCOUT TROOP REPORTED TO LOCAL POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS DURING THE RECENT HURRICANES AND ASSISTED WHERE EVER POSSIBLE, THIS HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY OF ORANGE CITY AND THEIR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS. 

            WE JUST RECEIVED TWO COLOR PHOTOS OF A PTF NASTY BOAT IN EARLY 1964, THEY WERE TAKEN BY BOB WILKINSON OF JACKSONVILLE, FL WHEN HE WAS STATIONED ON A DESTROYER.  THEY SHOW A CLEAR PICTURE OF EITHER PTF 3 OR PTF 4, PASSING BY THE RADAR SITE AT THE BASE OF MONKEY MOUNTAIN IN DANANG.  WE THANK HIM FOR THE PHOTOS AND WE WILL POST THEM SOON IN THE HISTORICAL PHOTO SECTION OF THE WEB SITE. 

            THE BRIDGE HAS DRIED OUT TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN BEGIN RESURFACING THE WOOD, IT HAD SWELLED FROM THE WATER ABSORBED DURING THE HURRICANES.  SO WE HAVE A LOT RAISED WOOD GRAIN TO DEAL WITH AND SURFACING MATERIAL THAT WAS POPPED LOOSE. 

            I HAVE RECEIVED WORD THAT A LOT OF SUPPORTERS OF THE PROJECT ARE CONTACTING FLORIDA POLITICIANS OVER THE RANKING DECISION OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUREAU. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT AND ASK YOU TO KEEP APPLYING THE PRESSURE, CONTINUE TO CONTACT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL REPRESENTATIVES, THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN SHOW THAT THERE IS STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE PRESERVATION OF PTF 3.  THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE

WILL VOTE ON APPROPRIATIONS AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, TO BE EFFECTIVE, NOW IS THE TIME TO CONTACT FLORIDA LAWMAKERS. 

CONTACTS

www.myflorida.com

www.leg.state.fl.us

 

FLORIDA GOVERNOR                                       DEPUTY SECRETARY
JOHN ‘JEB’ BUSH                                             JUDEE PETTIJOHN
EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR         500 SOUTH BRONOUGH ST
THE CAPITAL                                                    TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399
TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399-0001                              850/ 245-6333
850/ 488-4441

 

FLORIDA SECRETARY OF STATE                     FLORIDA HISTORICAL COMMISSION
GLENDA E. HOOD                                            DR. JUDITH A BENSE, CHAIRPERSON
500 SOUTH BRONOUGH ST                              UNIVERSITY OF WEST FLORIDA
TALLAHASSEE, FL   32399                               11000 UNIVERSITY PKWY

                                                                        PENSACOLA, FL  3251$                          

Jbense@uwf.edu

ACTING DIRECTOR HISTORICAL RESOURCES
FRED GASKE
500 SOUTH BRONOUGH ST
TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399
850/ 245-6333 

LOOKING AHEAD           

            WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A HISTORICAL RECORD OF THE BOAT AND WE ARE SEEKING PHOTOS OF THE BOAT OR OF THE FIRST SERIES OF NASTY CLASS BOATS # 3 – 8 THAT HAVE THE EARLY BELOW DECK CONFIGURATION.  THIS WILL ASSIST IN RECREATING FEATURES OF THE BOAT THAT WILL BE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.  WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR ANY HISTORICAL ITEMS RELATED TO THE BOAT, THEY WILL BE COME PART OF THE MUSEUM FOR THE BOAT.
 

WE HAVE HAD MANY GREAT SUGGESTIONS IN OUR HUNT FOR THE DECK ORDINANCE, PLEASE KEEP LOOKING I HAVE STARTED TO FOLLOW UP SOME OF THE LEADS, THE REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME,  A SINGLE 40mm GUN WITH MOUNTING RING, .50cal / 81mm MORTAR COMBO, AND TWO 20mm GUNS ARE REQUIRED.  THREE TRIPLE LEG 20mm MOUNTS ARE NEEDED. 

 

NEWS LETTER 31 JULY 2004 

PROGRESS 

            OUR WEB SITE www.scout544ptf.com IS ON LINE, WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS TO CORRECT AND POLISH OFF, THEN MERCHANDISE WILL BE ABLE TO BE PURCHASED.

WE WILL BE ADDING A VETERANS PAGE FOR PTF CREWS AND A PAGE FEATURING OUR SCOUT TROOP.  THE OVERALL RESPONSE TO THE WEB SITE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD AND WE PLAN TO UP DATE THE SITE AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE

WE HAVE CONVERTED MARK TONDEL’S 8mm FILM OF THE PTF 3 BOAT TO DVD, THIS WILL BE EDITED ALONG WITH SEAN TEIRNEY’S VIDEO INTO A DVD STORY OF THE PTF BOATS.  THE DVD WILL ALSO BE MADE AVAILABLE ON THE WEB SITE.  THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION WITH TWO FILM MAKERS OF A DOCUMENTARY ON THE PTF BOATS AND CREWS, THIS IS IN THE EARLY STAGES AND WE WILL SEE WHERE THIS GOES. 

FOUR MEMBERS OF THE RESTORATION CREW, GERRY MILLHOLEN , JIM VOUGH, BILL MOREO AND I  PAID A VISIT TO BOSTON WHALER Mfg. IN EDGEWATER LAST WEEK AND PRESENTED BOSTON WHALER, PRESIDENT MIKE MEYERS, WITH A PLAQUE AND OUR THANKS FOR THEIR HELP.  BOSTON WHALER PROVIDED STAFF, POWER, SECURITY AND THE USE OF THEIR DOCKS LAST YEAR WHEN PTF 3 WAS HAULED OUT AND MOVED TO DELAND.  MIKE MEYERS HAS PROMISED TO ASSIST IN THE FIBERGLASSING OF THE BRIDGE, THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS BEYOND SKILLS OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AND NEEDS PROFESSIONAL TALENTS. 

BILL MOREO WHO SERVED ON PTF 3 IN 1967 WAS SENT TO THE MEKONG DELTA IN LATER TOURS OF DUTY TO OPERATE 16 Ft. BOSTON WHALERS, INSERTING SEAL TEAMS UP NARROW CANALS WITH ANOTHER FORMER PTF CREWMAN RANDY ‘BEAR’ MILLER.  BILL BROUGHT ALONG A LARGE SPECIAL OPERATIONS BOOK WITH PHOTOS OF BILL MOREO AND RANDY MILLER OPERATING THE BOSTON WHALERS WITH THE SEALS.  BOSTON WHALER PRESIDENT MIKE MEYERS WAS IMPRESSED AND EXPRESSED INTEREST IN RECREATING THE MODEL 13, 16 Ft. WHALER WITH A CHRYSLER 105 ENGINE TO ACCOMPANY THE PTF 3 BOAT.

           

ONE OF THE ITEMS LISTED IN THE SCROUNGE DEPT CAN BE MARKED OFF,
RON COUTS OF NATIONAL FLEET SALES HAS DONATED A 48 Ft. SEMI –TRAILER BOX TO THE PROJECT.  THIS HAS BEEN PLACED NEXT TO THE FIRST SEMI – TRAILER BOX THAT HAS BEEN LOANED TO THE PROJECT BY DOUG NOSBISCH OF DELAND TRUCK CENTER.  THE FIRST BOX WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE AS STORAGE AND BREAKDOWN OF PARTS, THE NEW BOX WILL HOUSE OUR WORK SHOP AND STORAGE OF RECLAIMED PARTS AND EQUIPMENT.  BOTH BOXES HAVE BEEN LOCATED AT THE STERN OF THE BOAT.

THE FOCUS OF WORK FOR JULY CENTERED ON THE REMOVAL OF THE RUDDERS, FIRST THE STEERING AND EMERGENCY TILLER ASSEMBLY WAS REMOVED, THEN THE STARBOARD RUDDER WAS FREED, GRUDGINGLY. A FOUR FOOT HOLE WAS DUG UNDER THE STERN AND AFTER A LOT OF SWEAT AND SWEARING THE 300 lbs. STBD RUDDER HIT THE BOTTOM OF THE HOLE WITH A LOUD THUD.  THIS TOOK SEVERAL DAYS TO COAX IN 100 DEGREE HEAT AND HUMIDITY IN THE STEERING ROOM BY AL SCHEWIZER, JIM VOUGH, RICK SHEA AND CRAIG WOOD-THOMAS.  THEY HAVE FREED THE PORT RUDDER AND HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN.          

LOOKING AHEAD           

WE HAVE HAD MANY GREAT SUGGUESTIONS IN OUR HUNT FOR THE DECK ORDINANCE, PLEASE KEEP LOOKING I HAVE STARTED TO FOLLOW UP SOME OF THE LEADS, THE REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME,  A SINGLE 40mm GUN WITH MOUNTING RING, .50cal / 81mm MORTAR COMBO, AND TWO 20mm GUNS ARE REQUIRED.  THREE TRIPLE LEG 20mm MOUNTS ARE NEEDED. 

            THE GUN MOUNTS IN CALIFORNIA THAT PTF HISTORIAN CHIP MARSHALL HAD LOCATED, ARE BEING USED BY THE MARITIME LIBERTY MUSEUM TO RE-GUN PTF 26 IN RIO VISTA, CA.  MUSEUM CURATOR JIM WEST INFORMED ME THAT THEY HAD RECENTLY RECEIVED A 40mm BOFORS FOR THEIR BOAT. 

            JOHN PASTNOVIC, WITH PTF 19 IN CHESTERTOWN, MD. IS MAKING COPIES OF A SET OF DELTIC ENGINE MANUALS AND SPARE PARTS LIST.  WE HOPE TO RECEIVE THE MASTER SET SOON AND WE CAN THEN MAKE OUR COPY AND RETURN THE SET TO DAN WITHERS.  THE PTF 19 CREW EXPECT TO START ON THEIR BOAT IN SEPTEMBER AFTER THE BOATING SEASON.

 

 

NEWS LETTER 30 JUNE 2004 

PROGRESS

            WE HAVE LAUNCHING OUR WEB SITE, OUR URL IS www.scout544ptf.com,  WE HAVE THREE PAGES COVERING A SHORT HISTORY OF THE BOAT, A PHOTO GALLERY BROKEN INTO TWO SECTIONS, MERCHANDISE PAGE FEATURING HATS, JACKETS, TEE SHIRTS AND PATCHES, OTHER ITEMS WILL BE ADDED AS SOON AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE, AND DELAND NAVAL AIR MUSEUM. WE ARE ADDING A VETERANS PAGE TO COVER ITEMS DEALING WITH THE HISTORY OF THE BOAT AND LINKS TO COMBAT BOAT RELATED SITES   

TO ACCESS THE SITE YOU WILL HAVE TO TYPE IN THE ADDRESS AT THE TOP OF THE WEB PAGE IN THE HEADER SECTION. .  WE PLAN TO LINK OUR SITE WITH A SEARCH ENGINE IN TWO WEEKS. 

            AS I STATED IN LAST MONTHS NEWSLETTER WE WILL LEAVE THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION WITH DAN WITHER’S SITE www.ptfnasty.com WE DO NOT WANT TO DUPLICATE THE FANTASTIC BODY OF WORK ON HIS SITE, BOTH SITES WILL COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER.  WE WILL FORWARD MATERIAL NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO PTF 3 AND DUPLICATE MATERIAL ON THE PTF 3 BOAT TO WITHER’S SITE. WE ALSO EXPECT TO CROSS LINK WITH THE PTF 19 RESTORATION EFFORT IN MARYLAND. 

            MARK TONDEL, WHO WAS THE RADAR ET WITH THE ORIGINAL CREW, HAS SENT US HIS 8mm FILM AND FILM SLIDES OF THE BOAT AT SUBIC AND DANANG. AS WELL AS THE ORIGINAL NAVAL JACK AND U.S. FLAG THAT GRACED THE BOAT WHEN IT WAS COMMISSIONED IN MAY 1963. HE HAS PROVIDED US WITH A VIETNAMESE FLAG THAT WAS WITH THE BOAT BUT WAS NEVER FLOWN.  WE WILL HAVE THE 8mm SPEED SEQUENCED TO MATCH VHS TAPE SPEED, WHICH SHOULD GIVE US A CLEAN IMAGE OF THE ORIGINAL FILM.  THIS WILL ALL BE HANDED OVER TO DR. HARRY PRICE OF DIAMOND PRODUCTIONS TO BUILD A VIDEO PRESENTATION THAT CAN BE PLACE A CD WITH SEAN TIERNEY’S VIDEO OF THE PTF 10, 11 AND 13 BOATS. 

            WE RECEIVED A VISIT FROM TOM MAXWELL WHO WAS WITH BSU-1 SERVICING PTF 1 & 2, WHEN PTF 3 & 4 ARRIVED IN DANANG.  WE GAVE HIM THE TEN CENT TOUR AND PRESENTED HIM WITH A PTF 3 CREW HAT, HE WAS PLEASED WITH THE CONDITION OF THE BOAT AND THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE IN RESTORING THE BOAT.  TOM ALSO CONFIRMED THAT BRIDGE COCKPIT RADAR REPEATER WAS NOT ORIGINAL TO THE BOAT AND WAS PROBABLY ADDED ON AT SUBIC IN LATE1968 TO CONFORM WITH THE NAVAL BUREAU OF SHIPS AND ORDNANCE REQUIREMENTS.

WE PLAN TO EXTEND THE COCKPIT CONTROL DASH PANEL TO COVER THE SPACE USED BY THE RADAR REPEATER.  THE SPACE UNDER THE DASH WILL HOUSE MODERN ELECTRONICS THAT WILL BE OUT OF SIGHT OF THE VISITING PUBLIC, AND MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL APPEARANCE OF THE BOAT. 

WE HAVE SPRUCED UP THE OLD GIRL WITH A FRESH COAT MAKEUP, THE HULL HAS RECEIVED A FRESH COAT OF CAMO PAINT.  THIS PROVIDES A PROTECTIVE COAT OVER THE HULL AND PRESENTS A SHARP, CLEAN IMAGE OF THE BOAT.  THE NEW PAINT JOB HAS ATTRACTED MORE INTEREST IN THE BOAT AND SHOWS THE VIEWING PUBLIC THAT WORK IS BEING ACCOMPLISHED ON THE BOAT.  CHECK OUT THE WEB SITE TO SEE PHOTOS OF THE RECENT WORK. 

LOOKING AHEAD           

THE WORK ON THE BRIDGE IS NEARING COMPLETION AND WE ARE WORKING ON A DONATION OF FIBERGLASS TO COVER THE BRIDGE.  MOST OF THE WOOD SURFACES HAVE BEEN RESURFACED WITH DURAGLAS TO SMOOTH THE PLYWOOD THAT SPLINTERED WHEN THE OLD FIBERGLASS WAS PEELED OFF. WE HAVE HAD MANY GREAT SUGGESTIONS IN OUR HUNT FOR THE DECK ORDINANCE, PLEASE KEEP LOOKING I HAVE STARTED TO FOLLOW UP SOME OF THE LEADS, THE REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME,  A SINGLE 40mm GUN WITH MOUNTING RING, .50cal / 81mm MORTAR COMBO, AND TWO 20mm GUNS ARE REQUIRED.  THREE TRIPLE LEG 20mm MOUNTS ARE NEEDED.

MONEY TREE

            DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SENT IN OUR APPLICATION FOR STATE GRANT FUNDS, WE CAN STILL USE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, THEY CAN BE ADDED TO THE APPLICATION PACKET, PRIOR TO THE REVIEW IN SEPTEMBER. 

WE NEED LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE FLORIDA BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.  THE LETTERS THEN NEED TO BE MAILED TO OUR ADDRESS SO THAT THEY CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE.  PLEASE DO NOT SEND THE LETTERS DIRECTLY TO THE BUREAU AS THE LETTERS MAY NOT JOIN UP WITH THE APPLICATION PACKAGE.

 

ADDRESS LETTER TO:                                     SEND LETTER TO:

DIRECTOR                                                                 BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
DIVISION OF HISTORIC RESOURCES                            PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
C/0 BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION                  P.O. BOX 740789
GRANTS AND EDUCATION SECTION                           ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789
500 SOUTH BRONOUGH STREET                  
TALLAHASSEE, FL  32399-0250

ATTN: WALTER MARDER

 

 

            GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS THE HEAD OF THE FUND RAISING EFFORT AND CAN BE REACHED AT PHONE 407/ 402-0190 AND AT E MAIL: fl1husker@695online.com OR

I CAN BE REACHED AT 800/ 694-7161 AND AT E MAIL: redbarn2@earthlink.net

DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO          BSA TROOP 544 - PTF 3 FUND

AND MAILED TO

BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL  32774-0789

SCROUNGE DEPT-

 

            IF ANYONE HAS A LINE ON A GRANT PROGRAM, WE FALL UNDER MUSEUMS, YOUTH PROGRAM AND YOUTH EDUCATION.  I NEED PHONE NUMBERS AND CONTACTS AS WELL AS WERE TO LOOK FOR THE REQUIREMENTS. 

 FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A FLORIDA NON-PROFIT 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTIBLE. 

TOOLS – TALK TO HARDWARE STORES, WE NEED BELT SANDERS, COMPOUND POWER MITERS, HEAVY ROUTERS, 4 ½ INCH RIGHT ANGLE GRINDERS, ½ INCH DRILLS AND BITS, A SOURCE FOR FIBERGLASS AND RESIN, AND CLEAR PENETRATING EPOXY SYSTEM (CPES). 

ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS
CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com

FEEDBACK -  PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT redbarn2@earthlink.net


     SINCERELY,

                                                 ROBERT MCCRAY
                                                             PROJECT MANAGER
 

BSA TROOP 544, INC;  ROBERT MCCRAY;  1825 W. FRENCH AVE.;  ORANGE CITY, FL 32763; TEL: 800/ 694-7161;  FAX: 386/775-1130;  redbarn2@earthlink.net

 

 

ATTENTION ALL HANDS                                      9 JUNE 2004
 
    THE PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT WILL HAVE A MEETING ON
17 JUNE 2004, 6:30 PM AT THE DELAND NAVAL AIR MUSEUM,
910 BISCAYNE BLVD, DELAND, FLORIDA
 
    TOPICS WILL COVER FUND RAISING, MILESTONES, TARGET AREAS
THAT NEED ATTENTION AND SCHEDULE. THE MEETING IS EXPECTED
TO RUN 1 1/2 - 2 HOURS IN LENGTH.
 
THIS MEETING IS OPEN TO ANYONE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING.
 
MANY THANKS
 
ROBERT MCCRAY
NEWS LETTER 30 APRIL 2004

PROGRESS

THE PROCESS OF RESURFACING THE BRIDGE HAS STARTED, THE REMOVAL THE SHEETS OF FIBERGLASS LEFT SMALL DIVOTS FROM PIECES OF PLYWOOD THAT WERE PULLED UP WITH THE OLD FIBERGLASS. DURAGLASS RESIN IS BEING USED AS THE SURFACE LEVELING MATERIAL, THIS IS SANDED DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF THE ORIGINAL WOOD SURFACE, LEAVING A SEALED, STRONG SURFACE TO LAY DOWN NEW FIBERGLASS. NEW WOOD FRAMING IS BEING INSTALLED ALONG THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE AT THE LOOK OUT POSITIONS AND A NEW DASH FOR THE BRIDGE. A NEW LAYER OF MARINE GRADE PLYWOOD WILL BE ADDED TO THE DECK OF THE BRIDGE TO RE-ENFORCE THE ORIGINAL PLYWOOD DECK. THE RADAR REPEATER ON THE BRIDGE WILL BE ELIMINATED, IT DID NOT EXIST ON THE BRIDGE PRIOR TO THE 1968/1969 REFIT AT SUBIC BAY. THE UNIT IS TOTALLY RUINED AND WAY BEYOND ANY HOPE OF REPAIR, THE CHART ROOM REPEATER IS ANOTHER STORY. IT IS IN GOOD SHAPE WITH ALL OF ITS HARDWARE INTACT, HOW IT WILL BE RESTORED WILL BE DISCUSSED AT A LATER TIME, THE PREDOMINATE IDEA IS TO INSTALL A MODERN UNIT IN THE ORIGINAL HOUSING AND MAKE IT A FUNCTIONAL UNIT. WORK ON

THE NOSE OF THE BOAT HAS STARTED, THE BULL NOSE RING AND MOUNTING PLATE HAVE BEEN REMOVED, REVEALING THE WOOD LAMINATED BULL NOSE STRUCTURE. THIS AREA HAS BEEN REPAIRED BEFORE BUT, NOT PROPERLY, THIS WILL REQUIRE THAT A NEW WOOD BULL NOSE WILL BE MADE, ALONG WITH THE SUB STRUCTURE OF THE BULL NOSE RING PLATE. THE REMOVAL OF ALL BRACKETS, VENTS AND CLEATS HAS ALSO STARTED, SO THAT THE FIBERGLASS CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE DECK.

IN RESEARCHING THE THREE DELTICS, WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THEY CAME OUT OF NORWEGIAN SERVICE IN 1991, THEN TO ENGLAND, THEN FLORIDA. ON INSPECTION WE HAVE FOUND THAT THEY ARE IN EXCELLENT SHAPE, WITH MAYBE 30 HOURS OF RUN TIME. WE WILL BE CHECKING THE MANUFACTURING DATE TO DETERMINE THE AGE OF THE ENGINES, THEY APPEAR TO HAVE HAD LITTLE OR NO USE, WE WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW AS SOON AS THIS INFO IS AVAILABLE.

LOOKING AHEAD

WE HAVE HAD MANY GREAT SUGGESTIONS IN OUR HUNT FOR THE DECK ORDINANCE, PLEASE KEEP LOOKING I HAVE STARTED TO FOLLOW UP SOME OF THE LEADS, THE REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME, A SINGLE 40mm GUN WITH MOUNTING RING, .50cal / 81mm MORTAR COMBO, AND TWO 20mm GUNS ARE REQUIRED. THREE TRIPLE LEG 20mm MOUNTS ARE NEEDED.

THE DESIRE IS TO RE-ASSEMBLE THE BOAT IN A NEAR FINISHED APPEARANCE, THIS WILL HELP PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT.

WE HAVEN’T FORGOTTEN THE WEB SITE, MOST OF THE MATERIAL HAS BEEN PACKAGED AND WE ARE WORKING ON THE URL AND MERCHANDISING.

MONEY TREE

WITH OUR 501C3 STATUS DATING BACK TO OUR INCORPORATION, WE NOW QUALIFY FOR OUR LOCAL COUNTY GRANT PROGRAM. WORKSHOPS FOR THIS YEARS SUBMITTAL ARE BEING SCHEDULED AND WE SILL BE ATTENDING. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO SEE WHICH GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR OUR PROJECT.

I HAVE RECEIVED SOME OF THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, INCLUDING ONE FROM A NAVY CAPTAIN IN THE ARABIAN SEA. THEY ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED AND THEY ARE EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO HELP CONVINCE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUREAU THAT WE ARE DESERVING OF STATE FUNDS. REMEMBER TO SEND A LETTER OF SUPPORT, WE ARE PREPARING THE APPLICATION FOR THIS YEARS ROUND OF FUNDING REQUEST AND WE NEED YOUR HELP. WE NEED LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE FLORIDA BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE LETTERS THEN NEED TO BE MAILED TO OUR ADDRESS SO THAT THEY CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. PLEASE DO NOT SEND THE LETTERS DIRECTLY TO THE BUREAU AS THE LETTERS MAY NOT JOIN UP WITH THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. THE APPLICATION IS DUE ON 1 JUNE, 2004.

ADDRESS LETTER TO:
DIRECTOR DIVISION OF HISTORIC RESOURCES
C/0 BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION
GRANTS AND EDUCATION SECTION
500 SOUTH BRONOUGH STREET
TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399-0250
ATTN: WALTER MARDER 
  SEND LETTER TO:
DIRECTOR BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS THE HEAD OF THE FUND RAISING EFFORT AND CAN BE REACHED AT PHONE 407/ 402-0190 AND AT E MAIL: fl1husker@695online.com  OR I CAN BE REACHED AT 800/ 694-7161 AND AT E MAIL: redbarn2@earthlink.net .

DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO BSA TROOP 544 - PTF 3 FUND AND MAILED TO:

BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

SCROUNGE DEPT-

IF ANYONE HAS A LINE ON A GRANT PROGRAM, WE FALL UNDER MUSEUMS, YOUTH PROGRAM AND YOUTH EDUCATION. I NEED PHONE NUMBERS AND CONTACTS AS WELL AS WERE TO LOOK FOR THE REQUIREMENTS.

FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A FLORIDA NON-PROFIT 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTIBLE. TOOLS – TALK TO HARDWARE STORES, WE NEED BELT SANDERS, COMPOUND POWER MITERS, HEAVY ROUTERS, 4 ½ INCH RIGHT ANGLE GRINDERS, ½ INCH DRILLS AND BITS, A SOURCE FOR FIBERGLASS AND RESIN, AND CLEAR PENETRATING EPOXY SYSTEM (CPES).

ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com .

FEEDBACK - PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT redbarn2@earthlink.net 

SINCERELY, ROBERT MCCRAY, PROJECT MANAGER

BSA TROOP 544, INC
ROBERT MCCRAY
1825 W. FRENCH AVE.
ORANGE CITY, FL 32763
TEL: 800/ 694-7161; FAX: 386/775-1130
redbarn2@earthlink.net 

 

 

THE ARRIVAL OF THE ENGINES FOR PTF 3 TO THE DELAND NAVAL AIR STATION MUSEUM.

   

NEWS LETTER 31 MARCH 2004

PROGRESS -
 HE PROGRESS HAS BEEN SLOW AND STEADY, ALL OF THE FIBERGLASS HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE BRIDGE, REVEALING THE DARK PATINA OF THE MOHOGANY PLYWOOD. THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE AND PLYWOOD IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DRILL  OLES THAT WERE USED TO MOUNT HARDWARE, 200 PLUS HOLES HAVE BEEN COUNTED. THE DROP EDGE FRONT OF THE CHART ROOM HAS BEEN COMPLETELY REBUILT WITH NEW FRAMING AND SHOULD BE RE-SKINNED SOON WITH NEW MARINE PLYWOOD. DURING THE DIS- ASSEMBLY OF THE BRIDGE, WE FOUND A PIECE OF 2x4 WITH THE NAMES OF  WHAT APPEAR TO BE PHILLIPINE REPAIRMEN AND SRF SUBIC BAY AND 17 CROSSES.

THE WRITING FOUND ON THE 2x4 IS AS FOLLOWS:

TEORILLO RAPEAL JANRARY*
JOE SALINAS 1969
JOE SOLANOS SRF +++++++++
CRISPIN CORPLE SUBIC BAY ++++++++
ZAMBALES

THE 2x4 WILL BE PRESERVED AND MOUNTED IN A SHADOW BOX WITH THE BOTTLE OF SAN MIGUEL BEER, THAT WAS FOUND IN THE ENGINE ROOM BILGE. BOTH OF THESE ITEMS WILL BE DISPLAYED IN THE BOAT ON COMPETION OF THE PROJECT.

WE HAVE REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE OWNERS OF 3 NAPIER DELTIC ENGINES, THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO BE SHIPPED TO DELAND ON APRIL 9th. THE DELTICS WERE REBUILT IN 1999 AND WERE NEVER INSTALLED. BILL MOREO, CHECKED OUT THE ENGINES SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND WE FOUND THEM TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE. WE INTEND TO INSTALL A NEW INTER-COOLER SYSTEM, BLOWERS AND UP DATE THE FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM FROM MECHANICAL TO ELECTRONIC, WHICH SHOULD ELEMINATE A FEW PROBLEMS. THE SOLID LINK TO THE VEE DRIVES WILL BE REPLACED WITH A UNIVERAL JOINT DRIVE SHAFT TO REDUCE THE VIBRATION THAT WAS INDUCED INTO THE DRIVELINE. THE ENGINES WILL HAVE SPEED GOVERNORS SET TO PROLONG THE LIFE OF THE ENGINES.

THE EXHAUST SYSTEM AND AIR START CYLINDERS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE ENGINE ROOM AND ARE SETTING ON THE MAIN DECK. THEY WILL BE  LIFTED OFF WHEN THE DELTICS ARE DELIVERED.

LOOKING AHEAD - THE BRIDGE AND THE MAIN DECK WILL RECEIVE A FRESH COAT OF FIBERGLASS AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY. THE ENGINE ROOM HATCH WILL BE STRIPPED TO BARE METAL, THEN A NEW LAYER OF ZINC CHROMATE AND O.D. GREEN PAINT WILL BE APPLIED.

THE HUNT FOR THE DECK ORDANCE HAS STARTED, A SINGLE 40mm GUN  WITH MOUNTING RING, .50cal / 81mm MORTAR COMBO, AND TWO 20mm GUNS ARE REQUIRED. THREE TRIPLE LEG 20mm MOUNTS ARE NEEDED.

THE DESIRE IS TO RE-ASSEMBLE THE BOAT IN A NEAR FINISHED APPEARANCE, THIS WILL HELP PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT.

WE HAVEN’T FORGOTTEN THE WEB SITE, MOST OF THE MATERIAL HAS BEEN PACKAGED AND WE ARE WORKING ON THE URL AND MERCHANDISING.

MONEY TREE - WITH OUR 501C3 STATUS DATING BACK TO OUR INCORPORATION, WE NOW
QUALIFY FOR OUR LOCAL COUNTY GRANT PROGRAM. WORKSHOPS FOR THIS YEARS SUBMITTAL ARE BEING SCHEDULED AND WE SILL BE ATTENDING. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO SEE WHICH GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR OUR PROJECT.

I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS NEWSLETTERS THAT WE WILL BE RE-APPLYING FOR A STATE GRANT FOR THE BOAT, WE NEED LETTERS OF SUPPORT. SEPTEMBER 2003, PTF 3 MOVED FROM POSITION NUMBER 95 TO POSITION 59 ON THE LIST FOR FUNDING BY THE FLORIDA BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. WE ARE PREPARING THE APPLICATION FOR THIS YEARS ROUND OF FUNDING REQUEST AND WE NEED YOUR HELP. WE NEED LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE FLORIDA BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE LETTERS THEN NEED TO BE MAILED TO OUR ADDRESS SO THAT THEY CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. PLEASE DO NOT SEND THE LETTERS DIRECTLY TO THE BUREAU AS THE LETTERS MAY NOT JOIN UP WITH THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. THE APPLICATION IS DUE IN MAY 2004. I HAVE RECEIVED A FEW LETTERS BUT WE NEED MORE, WE NEED THE LETTERS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

ADDRESS LETTER TO:
DIRECTOR DIVISION OF HISTORIC RESOURCES
C/0 BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION
GRANTS AND EDUCATION SECTION 500 SOUTH BRONOUGH STREET TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399-0250
ATTN: WALTER MARDER 
  SEND LETTER TO:
BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

  GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS THE HEAD OF THE FUND RAISING EFFORT AND CAN BE REACHED AT PHONE 407/ 402-0190 AND AT E MAIL: fl1husker@695online.com OR I CAN BE REACHED AT 800/ 694-7161 AND AT E MAIL: redbarn2@earthlink.net .

DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO: 
     BSA TROOP 544 - PTF 3 FUND

AND MAILED TO :
     BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
     PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
     P.O. BOX 740789
     ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

SCROUNGE DEPT- IF ANYONE HAS A LINE ON A GRANT PROGRAM, WE FALL UNDER MUSEUMS, YOUTH PROGRAM AND YOUTH EDUCATION. I NEED PHONE NUMBERS AND CONTACTS AS WELL AS WERE TO LOOK FOR THE REQUIREMENTS.

FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A FLORIDA NON-PROFIT 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTIBLE.

TOOLS – TALK TO HARDWARE STORES, WE NEED BELT SANDERS, COMPOUND POWER
MITERS, HEAVY ROUTERS, 4 ½ INCH RIGHT ANGLE GRINDERS, ½ INCH DRILLS AND
BITS, A SOURCE FOR FIBERGLASS AND RESIN, AND CLEAR PENETRATING EPOXY
(CPES).

ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS
CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com .

FEEDBACK - PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT redbarn2@earthlink.net

SINCERELY,
ROBERT MCCRAY
PROJECT MANAGER

BSA TROOP 544, INC; ROBERT MCCRAY; 1825 W. FRENCH AVE.; ORANGE CITY, FL 32763; TEL: 800/ 694-7161; FAX: 386/775-1130; redbarn2@earthlink.net

 


NEWSLETTER 29 FEBRUARY 2004

PROGRESS - NOW THAT MOST OF THE HARDWARE IS OUT OF THE BOAT, WE ARE ALMOST READY TO START THE FUN PART, SCRUBBING DOWN THE INSIDE OF THE BOAT AND CLEANING THE REST OF THE BILGE. THE EXHAUST SYSTEM HAS BEEN DISASSEMBLED AND IS READY LIFT OUT, THE AIR START CYLINDERS WILL BE REMOVED AT THE SAME TIME. WE RECEIVED ANOTHER DONATION OF EQUIPMENT FROM THE M/V SEACALL AT BRADFORD MARINE IN FT. LAUDERDALE. THIS CONSISTED OF AIR HANDLERS, REFRIGERATION COMPRESSORS, DOPPLER RADAR AND ASSOCIATED HARDWARE, ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS AND PLUMBING MATERIAL. AS WITH THE EQUIPMENT PREVIOUSLY DONATED, MOST DATES AFTER 1991 AND IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. THIS ROUNDS OUT MOST OF THE NAVIGATIONAL EQUIPMENT, NOW WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR REPLACEMENTS FOR OUR AUXILIARY ENGINES, 4 CYLINDER PERKINS DIESELS WITH GENERATORS, 2 EACH.

THE MOTORCYCLE RUN FESTIVITIES WENT OFF LIKE CLOCK WORK, COMPLETE WITH A DIAMOND PATTERN FLY OVER BY THE CONFEDERATE AIR FORCE. ONLY ONE PROBLEM, WE DID NOT HAVE THE DESIRED TURNOUT BY RIDERS. EVEN WITH ¼ PAGE COLOR ADs IN TWO MAJOR BIKE MAGAZINES AND GOOD AD COVERAGE OF THE AREA. WE HAD A POOR SHOWING, MOSTLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE EARLY START TIME, SOME GROUPS SHOWED UP TO START 2-3 HOURS LATE AND WENT STRAIGHT TO OB’s 1750 INSTEAD OF THE BOAT. WE WILL TRY AGAIN AT BIKETOBER FEST IN OCTOBER, THESE THINGS DO HAPPEN, WE WILL HAVE MORE TIME TO TALK UP THE EVENT.

WE HAVE RECEIVED OUR CONFIRMATION IN WRITING FROM THE IRS THAT WE ARE A 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, WE ARE NOW ABLE TO PURSUE GRANTS AND MATERIAL THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO ACCESS PREVIOUSLY.

LOOKING AHEAD - SINCE MOST OF THE WORK HAS BEEN OUT OF SIGHT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE OLD GIRL IS A LITTLE SCRUFFY. WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THE BOAT A COAT OF LATEX PAINT, TO GIVE HER A FRESH APPEARANCE. THE OLIVE DRAB LATEX WILL BE EASY TO REMOVE AS WORK MOVES AROUND THE HULL.

MONEY TREE -  I MENTIONED IN THE LAST NEWSLETTER THAT WE WILL BE RE-APPLYING FOR A STATE GRANT FOR THE BOAT, WE NEED LETTERS OF SUPPORT. SEPTEMBER 2003, PTF 3 MOVED FROM POSITION NUMBER 95 TO POSITION 59 ON THE LIST FOR FUNDING BY THE FLORIDA BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. WE ARE PREPARING THE APPLICATION FOR THIS YEARS ROUND OF FUNDING REQUEST AND WE NEED YOUR HELP. WE NEED LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE FLORIDA BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE LETTERS THEN NEED TO BE MAILED TO OUR ADDRESS SO THAT THEY CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. PLEASE DO NOT SEND THE LETTERS DIRECTLY TO THE BUREAU AS THE LETTERS MAY NOT JOIN UP WITH THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. THE APPLICATION IS DUE IN MAY 2004. WE NEED THE LETTERS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

ADDRESS LETTER TO:
DIRECTOR DIVISION OF HISTORIC RESOURCES
C/0 BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION
GRANTS AND EDUCATION SECTION 500 SOUTH BRONOUGH STREET TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399-0250

ATTN: WALTER MARDER 

  SEND LETTER TO:
BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

  GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS THE HEAD OF THE FUND RAISING EFFORT AND CAN BE REACHED AT PHONE 407/ 402-0190 AND AT E MAIL: fl1husker@695online.com OR I CAN BE REACHED AT 800/ 694-7161 AND AT E MAIL: redbarn2@earthlink.net .

DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO:  BSA TROOP 544 - PTF 3 FUND

AND MAILED TO :
 
BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

SCROUNGE DEPT- FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A FLORIDA NON-PROFIT 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTIBLE. TOOLS - ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOAN OR GIVE, WE WILL BE ASKING TOOL COMPANIES AND HARDWARE STORES TO DONATE AND DISCOUNT ITEMS THAT WE WILL NEED. ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com.

FEEDBACK - PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT redbarn2@earthlink.net

SINCERELY, ROBERT MCCRAY PROJECT MANAGER

BSA TROOP 544, INC; ROBERT MCCRAY; 1825 W. FRENCH AVE.; ORANGE CITY, FL 32763; TEL: 800/ 694-7161; FAX: 386/775-1130; redbarn2@earthlink.net

 


02/13/04    ATTENTION ALL HANDS
 
    ATTACHED IS A FLYER FOR THE MOTORCYCLE RUN FOR DAYTONA BIKE WEEK 2004. THIS IS A FUND RAISER FOR THE BOAT, HAND A COPY TO ANYONE THAT YOU MAY KNOW WHO MIGHT BE HEADING FOR DAYTONA.   THE RUN IS BEING CARRIED IN TWO LOCAL AREA BIKE MAGAZINES AND FLYERS ARE BEING PLACED AT THE LOCAL AREA HOTELS.
WE HAVE AN ARMY DEUCE AND A HALF, A TACTICAL CARGO TRUCK THAT WILL BE IN THE LEAD FOLLOWED BY THE RIDERS.  A RALLY WILL BE HELD AT THE BOAT, THEN THE RIDERS WILL MOVE ON TO OB's 1750 IN DELAND, THE UNOFFICIAL WATERING HOLE FOR PTF 3.

THANKS TO ALL ROBERT MCCRAY

 

NEWS LETTER 30 DECEMBER 2003

PROGRESS - WORK ON THE BOAT IS MOVINGNEWS LETTER 31 MARCH 2004 PROGRESS THE PROGRESS HAS BEEN SLOW AND STEADY, ALL OF THE FIBERGLASS HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE BRIDGE, REVEALING THE DARK PATINA OF THE MOHOGANY PLYWOOD. THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE AND PLYWOOD IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DRILL HOLES THAT WERE USED TO MOUNT HARDWARE, 200 PLUS HOLES HAVE BEEN COUNTED. THE DROP EDGE FRONT OF THE CHART ROOM HAS BEEN COMPLETELY REBUILT WITH NEW FRAMING AND SHOULD BE RE-SKINNED SOON WITH NEW MARINE PLYWOOD. DURING THE DIS- ASSEMBLY OF THE BRIDGE, WE FOUND A PIECE OF 2x4 WITH THE NAMES OF WHAT APPEAR TO BE PHILLIPINE REPAIRMEN AND SRF SUBIC BAY AND 17 CROSSES. THE WRITING FOUND ON THE 2x4 IS AS FOLLOWS: TEORILLO RAPEAL JANRARY* JOE SALINAS 1969 JOE SOLANOS SRF +++++++++ CRISPIN CORPLE SUBIC BAY ++++++++ ZAMBALES THE 2x4 WILL BE PRESERVED AND MOUNTED IN A SHADOW BOX WITH THE BOTTLE OF SAN MIGUEL BEER, THAT WAS FOUND IN THE ENGINE ROOM BILGE. BOTH OF THESE ITEMS WILL BE DISPLAYED IN THE BOAT ON COMPETION OF THE PROJECT. WE HAVE REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE OWNERS OF 3 NAPIER DELTIC ENGINES, THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO BE SHIPPED TO DELAND ON APRIL 9th. THE DELTICS WERE REBUILT IN 1999 AND WERE NEVER INSTALLED. BILL MOREO, CHECKED OUT THE ENGINES SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND WE FOUND THEM TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE. WE INTEND TO INSTALL A NEW INTER-COOLER SYSTEM, BLOWERS AND UP DATE THE FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM FROM MECHANICAL TO ELECTRONIC, WHICH SHOULD ELEMINATE A FEW PROBLEMS. THE SOLID LINK TO THE VEE DRIVES WILL BE REPLACED WITH A UNIVERAL JOINT DRIVE SHAFT TO REDUCE THE VIBRATION THAT WAS INDUCED INTO THE DRIVELINE. THE ENGINES WILL HAVE SPEED GOVERNORS SET TO PROLONG THE LIFE OF THE ENGINES. THE EXHAUST SYSTEM AND AIR START CYLINDERS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE ENGINE ROOM AND ARE SETTING ON THE MAIN DECK. THEY WILL BE LIFTED OFF WHEN THE DELTICS ARE DELIVERED. LOOKING AHEAD THE BRIDGE AND THE MAIN DECK WILL RECEIVE A FRESH COAT OF FIBERGLASS AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY. THE ENGINE ROOM HATCH WILL BE STRIPPED TO BARE METAL, THEN A NEW LAYER OF ZINC CHROMATE AND O.D. GREEN PAINT WILL BE APPLIED. THE HUNT FOR THE DECK ORDANCE HAS STARTED, A SINGLE 40mm GUN WITH MOUNTING RING, .50cal / 81mm MORTAR COMBO, AND TWO 20mm GUNS ARE REQUIRED. THREE TRIPLE LEG 20mm MOUNTS ARE NEEDED. THE DESIRE IS TO RE-ASSEMBLE THE BOAT IN A NEAR FINISHED APPEARANCE, THIS WILL HELP PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE FINISHED PRODUCT. WE HAVEN’T FORGOTTEN THE WEB SITE, MOST OF THE MATERIAL HAS BEEN PACKAGED AND WE ARE WORKING ON THE URL AND MERCHANDISING. MONEY TREE WITH OUR 501C3 STATUS DATING BACK TO OUR INCORPORATION, WE NOW QUALIFY FOR OUR LOCAL COUNTY GRANT PROGRAM. WORKSHOPS FOR THIS YEARS SUBMITTAL ARE BEING SCHEDULED AND WE SILL BE ATTENDING. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO SEE WHICH GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR OUR PROJECT. I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS NEWSLETTERS THAT WE WILL BE RE-APPLYING FOR A STATE GRANT FOR THE BOAT, WE NEED LETTERS OF SUPPORT. SEPTEMBER 2003, PTF 3 MOVED FROM POSITION NUMBER 95 TO POSITION 59 ON THE LIST FOR FUNDING BY THE FLORIDA BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. WE ARE PREPARING THE APPLICATION FOR THIS YEARS ROUND OF FUNDING REQUEST AND WE NEED YOUR HELP. WE NEED LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE FLORIDA BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE LETTERS THEN NEED TO BE MAILED TO OUR ADDRESS SO THAT THEY CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. PLEASE DO NOT SEND THE LETTERS DIRECTLY TO THE BUREAU AS THE LETTERS MAY NOT JOIN UP WITH THE APPLICATION PACKAGE. THE APPLICATION IS DUE IN MAY 2004. I HAVE RECEIVED A FEW LETTERS BUT WE NEED MORE, WE NEED THE LETTERS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ADDRESS LETTER TO: SEND LETTER TO: DIRECTOR BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 DIVISION OF HISTORIC RESOURCES PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT C/0 BUREAU OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION P.O. BOX 740789 GRANTS AND EDUCATION SECTION ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789 500 SOUTH BRONOUGH STREET TALLAHASSEE, FL 32399-0250 ATTN: WALTER MARDER GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS THE HEAD OF THE FUND RAISING EFFORT AND CAN BE REACHED AT PHONE 407/ 402-0190 AND AT E MAIL: fl1husker@695online.com OR I CAN BE REACHED AT 800/ 694-7161 AND AT E MAIL: redbarn2@earthlink.net . DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO BSA TROOP 544 - PTF 3 FUND AND MAILED TO BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT P.O. BOX 740789 ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789 SCROUNGE DEPT- IF ANYONE HAS A LINE ON A GRANT PROGRAM, WE FALL UNDER MUSEUMS, YOUTH PROGRAM AND YOUTH EDUCATION. I NEED PHONE NUMBERS AND CONTACTS AS WELL AS WERE TO LOOK FOR THE REQUIREMENTS. FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A FLORIDA NON-PROFIT 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTABLE. TOOLS – TALK TO HARDWARE STORES, WE NEED BELT SANDERS, COMPOUND POWER MITERS, HEAVY ROUTERS, 4 ½ INCH RIGHT ANGLE GRINDERS, ½ INCH DRILLS AND BITS, A SOURCE FOR FIBERGLASS AND RESIN, AND CLEAR PENETRATING EPOXY (CPES). ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com. FEEDBACK - PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT redbarn2@earthlink.net SINCERELY, ROBERT MCCRAY PROJECT MANAGER BSA TROOP 544, INC; ROBERT MCCRAY; 1825 W. FRENCH AVE.; ORANGE CITY, FL 32763; TEL: 800/ 694-7161; FAX: 386/775-1130; redbarn2@earthlink.net AHEAD SLOW AND STEADY MUCH OF DECEMBER HAS BEEN SPENT WORKING ON THE BRIDGE, ENGINE ROOM AND DISMANTLING THE OFFICERS QUARTERS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE FRESH WATER TANKS. DUE TO THE ERODED CONDITION OF THE HEAT EXCHANGERS IN THE ENGINE ROOM BILGE, THEY WILL NOT BE SALVAGED, SO IT WAS SAW-ALL TIME AND THEY WERE CUT UP AND JETTISONED OVER THE SIDE. THE BILGE MUCK TURNED OUT TO BE MOSTLY SAND AND SILT. THE
AUXILIARY ENGINES AND VEE DRIVES HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THE CENTER OF THE ENGINE ROOM AND ARE READY TO BE LIFTED OUT. THE WOOD INNER PLANKING BELOW THE WATER LINE LOOK GOOD AND SOLID, ESPECIALLY IN THE ENGINE ROOM.

PRIMARY FOCUS HAS BEEN ON THE BRIDGE, WE ARE WORKING TO RESTORE THIS FIRST, IT IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE. AS SOON AS THE REPAIR WORK IS COMPLETED, WE WILL RECOVER THE BRIDGE IN FIBERGLASS AND PAINT. THE BRIDGE WILL BE REMOUNTED ON THE BOAT TO RESTORE THE APPEARANCE AND TO SHOW PROGRESS IS BEING MADE.

MARK TONDEL SENT US A COPY OF A COLOR 8MM FILM ON VHS TAPE FEATURING PTF 3 AS MARK AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONING CREW TOOK THE BOAT TO DANANG. DR. HARRY PRICE WHO OWNS DIAMOND PRODUCTIONS IS INCORPORATING THIS VIDEO INTO A PRODUCTION VIDEO OF THE PTF 3 RESTORATION. WE WILL MAKE IT AVAILABLE AS SOON AS IT IS COMPLETED.

WE HAVE FOUND THAT SEVERAL ALTERATIONS WERE MADE TO THE BRIDGE, THE HELM ORIGINALLY HAD A BRASS ‘SHIPS’ WITH KNUCKLE BUSTER GRIPS. AND THE RADAR REPEATER AT THE HELM WAS ADDED AT A LATER DATE. TWO WINDOWS WERE LOCATED FORWARD OF THE CHART ROOM, ARE NO LONGER PRESENT. THE BLUE PRINTS THAT WE RECEIVED WITH THE 1968 REVISIONS REFLECT THESE CHANGES.

BRYAN ELLERMAN STOPPED BY, HE SERVED ON PTF 3 1968-69 AS AN
ET/RADAR. HE RECOGNIZED HIS OLD RADAR SET AND EXPLAINED THE OPERATION OF THE DECCA SYSTEM. HE SAID IT WAS THE FIRST TIME HE HAD SEEN THE BOAT IN 35 YEARS, AND THAT IT BROUGHT BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES, HE SAID HE’LL BE BACK IN JUNE.

WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE CONTENT AND SET UP FOR THE WEBSITE AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT DONE IN JANUARY. WE HAVE ADDED TO THE MERCHANDISE WITH AN M-90 FLIGHT JACKET WHICH IS ENHANCED WITH EMBROIDERY WORK THAT IS SUPPLIED BY CREW MEMBER, AL SCHWITZER. THIS AS WELL AS THE OTHER ITEMS WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE FOR SALE.

LOOKING AHEAD - WE ARE IN THE PROGRESS OF PLANNING FUNDRAISERS AND PROMOTIONS FOR CORPORATE AND INDIVIDUAL SPONSORS. WE ARE PLANNING A VETERANS MOTORCYCLE RUN TO THE BOAT DURING DAYTONA BIKE WEEK WITH VENDORS ON SITE. WE ARE SEEKING FUNDING FROM AREA CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS AND MUNICIPALITIES, ANYONE WITH IDEAS OR CONTACTS PLEASE CONTACT US WITH YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

A REMINDER, THAT THE SEA SCOUT CREW IS OPEN TO BOYS AND GIRLS AGES 14 – 20 YEARS. WE WILL BE WORKING WITH OR SETTING UP OUR OWN NAVY SEA CADET PROGRAM IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I CAN BE CONTACTED AT THE ADDRESS LISTED BELOW.

MONEY TREE - GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS THE HEAD OF THE FUND RAISING EFFORT AND CAN BE REACHED AT PHONE 407/ 402-0190 AND AT E MAIL: fl1husker@695online.com

DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO BSA TROOP 544 - PTF 3 FUND
AND MAILED TO:

BOY SCOUT TROOP 544, INC
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

SCROUNGE DEPT- FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A FLORIDA NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTIBLE.

TOOLS - ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOAN OR GIVE, WE WILL BE ASKING TOOL COMPANIES AND HARDWARE STORES TO DONATE AND DISCOUNT ITEMS THAT WE WILL NEED.

ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com.

FEEDBACK - PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT
redbarn2@earthlink.net

SINCERELY, ROBERT MCCRAY - PROJECT MANAGER

BSA TROOP 544, INC; ROBERT MCCRAY; 1825 W. FRENCH AVE.; ORANGE CITY, FL 32763; TEL: 800/ 694-7161; FAX: 386/775-1130; redbarn2@earthlink.net

12-29-03   Hi Dan, It's been sometime since I emailed you. I do however, check the website regularly. I wanted to let you know that I visited Deland Florida and went to see PTF3. I was warmly greeted by Robert McCray and his crew. I have attached some pictures I took, one with me standing at the bow. The guys are working hard and making some real progress. They were cleaning the engine room bilge the day (Saturday, 27 December) I was there, certainly not a job for the faint at heart, what a mess. Robert briefed me on their restoration plans and even asked me a bunch of questions to see if I had any helpful info. But I must confess, the old memory was some what vague. I did remember the old DECCA radar and repeater which I once worked on. Had a great time touring the boat and standing in areas where I stood 35 years ago, some great and not so great memories. I told Robert I would send you the pictures I took and let you know they're working hard. Hope to visit the PTF3 again this coming June. 

Sincerely, Bryan Ellerman

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NEWS LETTER 30 SEPTEMBER 2003

PROGRESS


WE HAVE BEEN MOVING RIGHT ALONG THIS MONTH, FIRST MORE DISASSEMBLY HAS BEEN COMPLETED. SIX FUEL TANKS HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM
THE BOAT AND THE REMAINING FOUR TANKS SHOULD BE OUT THIS COMING
WEEKEND. FUEL VENTS AND FITTING, AIR VENTS, LADDERS, READY RACKS
HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND PLACED IN STORAGE TO BE RE-CONDITIONED. THE 
AUXILIARY ENGINE ON THE STARBOARD SIDE HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE
CENTER OF THE ENGINE ROOM AND IS READY TO REMOVE.

THE CITY OF SANFORD, FLORIDA, THE BOAT’S FUTURE HOME PORT HAS
BEGUN CUSTOMIZING THE MEMORIAL JETTY THAT BORDERS THE CITY MARINA
BY INSTALLING CLEATS SPACED CORRECTLY FOR THE BOAT AND PILINGS
ARE BEING INSTALLED FOR PROPER DOCKAGE FOR THE BOAT. THE MEMORIAL
JETTY WILL BE HONORING ALL BRANCHES OF THE UNIFORMED SERVICES AND
A SPECIAL PEDESTAL MOUNTED PLAQUE WILL BE INSTALLED WHEN THE BOAT
IS DOCKED IN SANFORD.

THE CITY OF DELAND HAS FENCED THE PROPERTY THAT HOUSES THE 
NAS MUSEUM AND PTF 3, AND AS SOON AS THE GATES ARE INSTALLED WE CAN
BEGIN SETTING UP THE WORK AREAS. THE CITY IS ALSO BUILDING THE CONCRETE
PAD FOR THE WW2 AVENGER THAT IS SCHEDULED TO ARRIVE ON 13 OCT 2003.

WE HAVE RECEIVED A DONATION OF TWO COMPLETE SETS OF RADAR
SYSTEMS, GYRO COMPASSES ( BASE, CONTROLLER, AND REPEATER, GPS SYSTEMS
WITH PLOTTER AND TELEPHONE COMMO SYSTEM, THIS WAS PROVIDED BY THE
OWNERS AND CREW OF THE MV SEA CALL BASED AT BRADFORD MARINE IN
FT. LAUDERDALE, FL. WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED A DONATION OF A 1981 DODGE
RAM CARGO VAN THAT WILL BE USED AS A TOOL AND EQUIPMENT TRUCK.

BOB MCCRAY WAS IN TALLAHASSEE ON 16 SEPT 2003 FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE PTF 3 BOAT PROJECT TO THE FLORIDA HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUREAU. THE BOAT HAS BEEN CLEARED TO RECEIVE UP TO $ 300,000.00 IN FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WE ARE IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER HISTORICAL PROJECTS IN THE STATE. WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN IMPROVING OUR STANDING WITH THE BUREAU
AS WE HAVE MOVED FROM THE 95th POSITION ON THE LIST TO 59th. UNFORTUNATELY
THE PLANNED FUNDING IS STOPPING AT THE 56th POSITION ON THE LIST. THE 
LEGISLATURE MADE THE UNPRECEDENTED MOVE LAST YEAR TO ROLL OVER THE
PROJECTS THAT WERE NOT FUNDED LAST YEAR, THIS GREATLY REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THIS YEARS PROJECTS.

LOOKING AHEAD

WE ARE IN THE PROGRESS OF PLANNING FUNDRAISERS AND PROMOTIONS
FOR CORPORATE AND INDIVIDUAL SPONSORS. WE ARE PLANNING A VETERANS
MOTORCYCLE RUN TO THE BOAT DURING DAYTONA BIKE WEEK WITH VENDORS 
ON SITE. WE ARE SEEKING FUNDING FROM AREA CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS AND
MUNICIPALITIES, ANYONE WITH IDEAS OR CONTACTS PLEASE CONTACT US
WITH YOUR SUGGESTIONS. THE FIRST TEE SHIRTS AND HATS, AND EMBROIDERED
APPAREL WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON AS THE FIRST SAMPLES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED
AND SHOULD BE AVAILABLE THIS NEXT MONTH.

MONEY TREE

GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS THE HEAD OF THE FUND RAISING EFFORT AND CAN BE REACHED AT PHONE 407/ 402-0190 AND AT E MAIL: fl1husker@695online.com

DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO PTF 3 FUND – BSA TROOP 544
AND MAILED TO 
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

SCROUNGE DEPT-

FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTIBLE.

TOOLS - ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOAN OR GIVE, WE WILL BE ASKING TOOL COMPANIES AND HARDWARE STORES TO DONATE AND DISCOUNT ITEMS THAT WE WILL NEED.

SCAFFOLDS – NEEDED TO GO AROUND THE BOAT, FOR A SAFE WORK PLATFORM.

ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS 
CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com.

FEEDBACK - PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT
Redbarn2@earthlink.net 

SINCERELY,
ROBERT MCCRAY
PROJECT MANAGER


BSA TROOP 544; ROBERT MCCRAY; 1825 W. FRENCH AVE.; ORANGE CITY, FL 32763; TEL: 800/ 694-7161; FAX: 386/775-1130; redbarn2@earthlink.net 

 


 

Engine Suite Options Discussion

PTF ALUMNI

NOW THAT WE HAVE PTF 3 HERE, I WANT TO RE-ADDRESS 
THE ENGINE SUITE FOR THE BOAT. THREE OPTIONS PRESENT 
THEMSELVES AS TO WHICH ROUTE TO TAKE, 

OPTION 1: THE MTU ENGINE SET UP THAT BOB STONER 
SUGGESTED WHICH IS PRESENTLY USED IN THE GREEK 
NASTY BOATS THAT USE A UNIVERSAL JOINT DRIVE SHAFT 
TO THE VEE DRIVE UNITS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GREEK 
BOATS OPERATE IN THE 38-40 KNOT RANGE, WHICH IS RESPECTABLE

OPTION 2: THERE ARE SOME DELTICS AVAILABLE AND WITH
THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS CAN BE MADE RELIABLE

A. REPLACE SOLID DRIVE LINK WITH FLEX DRIVE SHAFT
B. REPLACE CRIMP TOP PISTONS WITH PERFORMANCE
DIESEL PISTONS
C. ADD OIL FEED TUBE TO SPRAY OIL TO TOP CRANKSHAFTS
TO PREVENT EARLY WEAR ON BEARINGS AND JOURNALS
D. ADD MOTOR DRIVE PRE-OIL ENGINE PRIOR TO START
E. ADD AUTO SEQUENTIAL START THAT SENSES OIL PRESSURE
AND FLUIDS BEFORE START 
F. USE UPDATED PAXSON EXHAUST TURBOS TO INCREASE
BOOST AND GOVERNOR ENGINE OPERATION
G. UPDATE INJECTORS FOR EFFICIENCY AND ECONOMY

OPTION 3: ANOTHER ENGINE TYPE, AS NOT ADDRESSED

THE PRIMARY REASON THAT WE ARE INTERESTED RETAINING THE
DELTICS IS FOR HISTORICAL CORRECTNESS, BECAUSE THIS IS THE
FIRST OF THE U.S. NASTYS. I WANT TO GET FEEDBACK PRO AND CON
ON THE OPTIONS. GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT, MY BIGGEST CONCERN
IS THAT THE DELTICS ARE VINTAGE ITEMS AND PARTS ARE AN ISSUE.

THANKS

ROBERT MCCRAY


Guys,
I think that while it would be nice to run the boat with the Napier Deltics as they did in-service, I concur with Jim Thomas about the TLC needed to keep them running and the cost of spares. What you could do would be to pull the Deltics in the boat, fix them up cosmetically, and display them ashore.

I would suggest investigating the MTU engine set-up of the Greek boats. The reason here is that the Greeks have over 10 years' experience in running this propulsion system in the Nastys. I there are any problems associated with this set-up they would know and they can provide the kind of operational experience that avoids having to "reinvent the wheel."

I believe PTF-26 was re-engined to GM 12-cylinder turbo diesels. You might want to touch base with the operator of that boat to see how it is running and what problems they may have had. As this boat is an Osprey, there may be some other concerns with the engine installation that may be peculiar to it and vice versa. Also find out what kind of performance they are getting out of the Osprey with the GM engine combination. If you want to approximate the same kind of performance that the Nasty was capable, you will need to keep the power-to-weight ratio in mind. Also, take a good look at engine reliability and maintainability. The idea would be to make PTF-3 a fast boat, but you don't want to put in engines that will destroy your budget either due to their temperamental nature, difficulty of maintenance, and cost of maintenance.

My ranking for an engine transplant:
1. Do the MTU engine conversion. Make sure you check out all the particulars and costs, including the cost of ownership (talk to the Greek Navy).
2. Do the alternative power plant conversion. This is the more risky of the two preferred options as there will probably be no track record for such a conversion.
3. Do the Deltic restoration as a last resort. Never under estimate the cost of high performance. Even with skilled engineers who understand Deltics and give them all the TLC they can, you are still going to have a high cost of ownership that may break your budget. High cost of ownership was one of the factors that killed PTFs in Navy service.


Bob Stoner



Bob I forwarded this on to Mike Baker, a retired Napier Deltic Tech Rep, I think that the third idea is the best, reasoning is you don't need high speed and the age of the boat is a factor. Second is the cost of overhaul and parts being on hand for the Deltic's, the engines were sprint engines which means operating at high speed shorten the life of the engines. The Greek Navy operated without a large amount of money in the Seventy's and babied their engines because of the high cost to overhaul them. The engines must be jacked over every time before a first start of the day so that if there should be a failed "O" ring on a cylinder liner, you would find a HYDRAULIC LOCK before starting and destroying an engine, did happen and will happen again. Mike Baker is one fine Tech Rep and will not bull shit you around

.Jim Thomas


James
Deep in my mind I feel the boat should be engined with the original type fitted on build. The T18-37K engines are the engines the boat was designed around. I am not sure if PTF 3 had V-Drives fitted. Now to work through the three options put forward:-
1. The MTU set up which was used on the Hellenic Navy Command Nasty boats was not a successes but it would give a reliable installation designed and built correctly. The last Nasty owned by the Greek Navy is now a Harbour boat with a maximum speed of 17 Knots. I was told of this last year on my visit to Scaramanger ( hope thats the spelling) when visiting the base we used to repair their Deltics James. I was there on their Hunt mine sweeper ex Royal Navy.
2. If Deltics are available I personally would fit them but we must bear in mind the complexity of engines and the source of spare parts, overhaul and repair.
A. What was wrong with the carden shaft drive? I have no record of a failure if alignment and maintenance were correct.
B. What is a crimp top piston? The cutout on the top of the piston if for clearance round the injector.
C.Oil feed to the three crankshafts is adequate if prestart checks are carried out i.e.- oil and fuel priming.
D. A motor drive to fuel and lub oil priming would save lots of hard work.
E. Why make the engine start sequence more complicated. Engineers watch gauges to see just what pressures are available before an engine start.
F. There is no updated Paxman exhaust turbo available. The turbo blower fitted to the T18-37K engines is engine driven at all times. With a free turbo blower the engine would never start because the scavenge air pressure is required at start up!!!
G. Do you have any alternative injectors which would give the performance and fit in the cylinder adaptor holes without major design and cost of production for 36 new injector?
3. I agree an American engine available would be the best option. Spares and service readably available. Horse power and speed of engine to suit existing shafting to give the performance required. Remember the A/H, A/S gearbox is part of the engine and alternative gearbox would be required

Hope my thoughts help but again I would agree with your last para Vintage items and parts are an issue.
Regards

Mike Baker 

NEWS LETTER 29 OCTOBER 2003

PROGRESS

THE BOAT HAS ACQUIRED A NEW LOOK, IT IS NOW SURROUNDED BY
SCAFFOLDING AND WORK PLATFORMS, THAT ALLOW EASY ACCESS TO THE
HULL. BOB JUNKINS PLANS TO DISASEMBLE THE NOSE OF THE BOAT BACK
TO THE SECOND WATER TIGHT BULKHEAD, THIS WORK WILL ADDRESS THE
AREA DAMAGED IN THE JAN 2002 COLLISION AND SOME SOFT WOOD.

FENCING AND GATE WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY THE CITY OF DELAND,
A SPECIAL THANKS IS IN ORDER FOR KEITH RIGER, THE DELAND AIRPORT MANAGER
FOR MAKING THE FENCE POSSIBLE. CHIEF FIFIELD HAS BEEN BUSY WITH THE ELECTRICAL DROP TO THE BOAT AS WELL AS A TRACTOR TRAILER BOX FOR STORAGE. THE RESTORATION CREW HAVE REMOVED ALL FUEL AND LUBRICATION
TANKS FROM THE BOAT AND DISASSEMBLY HAS STARTED IN THE ENGINE
ROOM. MOST OF THE ENGINE ROOM HARDWARE IS IN GOOD SHAPE AND RESTORABLE, THE AUXILIARY ENGINES ARE SHOT AND ARE SCRAPE, SOME OF THE MOUNTING BRACKETS WILL BE SALVAGED. THE FRESH WATER TANKS MOUNTED
IN THE FORWARD SECTION OF THE BOAT ARE NEXT ON THE LIST TO REMOVED.

WE NOW HAVE A COMPLETE SET STRUCTURAL PRINTS FOR THE EARLY
NASTY CLASS BOATS WHICH HAVE COME TO US COURTESY OF JONNY GREFF AND
THE ROYAL NORWEGIAN NAVY. THE SET IS FOR KNM P380 TJELD/NASTY WHICH
IS IDENTICAL TO PTF 3 AT THE TIME OF HER BUILD. THE P380 BOAT IS SHOWN WITH
TORPEDO TUBES AND THE DECCA 202 RADAR ANTENNA, THE CHIEF’S MESS IS
SHOWN WHICH WAS THE SAME FOR PTF 3 PRIOR TO THE ADDITION OF THE LONG RANGE FUEL TANKS. THE PRINTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR $ 45.00, THIS COVERS
THE PRINTING AND SHIPPING COST, WITH A LITTLE EXTRA GOING TO THE BOAT.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THE WEBSITE AND ALL OF THE
HATS, SHIRTS, PRINTS AND PROMOTIONS WILL BE FEATURED ON THE SITE AND
THIS SHOULD BE UP AND WORKING BY DECEMBER.

ED CARSON AND HIS CREW AT THE NAVAL AIR STATION MUSEUM NOW HAVE A 
WW2 TBM AVENGER TORPEDO BOMBER SITTING ON THE RECENTLY COMPLETED
CONCRETE PAD BEHIND THE MUSEUM. THE PLANE IS IN SEVERAL PIECES ,
BUT THE IN GOOD SHAPE, THE PLANE SET ON THE BOTTOM OF LAKE MICHIGAN
FOR OVER 50 YEARS. THE PAINT IS FADED BUT ALL MARKINGS ARE VISIBLE
AND THERE IS NO SIGN OF MARINE GROWTH ON THE PLANE, 5 POUNDS OF
PRESSURE REMAINS IN ONE OF THE OXYGEN BOTTLES. 

PTF HISTORIAN CHIP MARSHALL STOPPED BY LAST WEEKEND AND SURVEYED
THE OPERATION AND SEEMED TO BE IMPRESSED WITH OUR PROGRESS. HE
SPENT MOST OF THE DAY TAKING MEASUREMENTS OF THE BOAT. THIS WAS THE
FIRST TIME THAT HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO SPEND A LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME RECORDING INFORMATION ON THE PTF NASTY BOATS. HE WILL BE REPRESENTING US IN HIS EFFORTS TO RESEARCH THE HISTORY OF THE PTF BOATS.

LOOKING AHEAD

WE ARE IN THE PROGRESS OF PLANNING FUNDRAISERS AND PROMOTIONS
FOR CORPORATE AND INDIVIDUAL SPONSORS. WE ARE PLANNING A VETERANS
MOTORCYCLE RUN TO THE BOAT DURING DAYTONA BIKE WEEK WITH VENDORS 
ON SITE. WE ARE SEEKING FUNDING FROM AREA CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS AND
MUNICIPALITIES, ANYONE WITH IDEAS OR CONTACTS PLEASE CONTACT US
WITH YOUR SUGGESTIONS. THE FIRST TEE SHIRTS AND HATS, AND EMBROIDERED
APPAREL HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND WE WILL BE MAKING THEM AVAILABLE
SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER.


MONEY TREE

GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS THE HEAD OF THE FUND RAISING EFFORT AND CAN BE REACHED AT PHONE 407/ 402-0190 AND AT E MAIL: fl1husker@695online.com


DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO BSA TROOP 544 - PTF 3 FUND
AND MAILED TO 
BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

SCROUNGE DEPT-

FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTIBLE.

TOOLS - ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOAN OR GIVE, WE WILL BE ASKING TOOL COMPANIES AND HARDWARE STORES TO DONATE AND DISCOUNT ITEMS THAT WE WILL NEED. 

SCAFFOLDS – NEEDED TO GO AROUND THE BOAT, FOR A SAFE WORK PLATFORM.

ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS 
CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com.

FEEDBACK - PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT
redbarn2@earthlink.net 

SINCERELY,
ROBERT MCCRAY
PROJECT MANAGER


BSA TROOP 544; ROBERT MCCRAY; 1825 W. FRENCH AVE.; ORANGE CITY, FL 32763; TEL: 800/ 694-7161; FAX: 386/775-1130; redbarn2@earthlink.net 

September 28, 2003 - PTF # 3 Periodic Update

Since we have gotten PTF # 3 home to Deland we have had Saturday work parties with several of the leaders and volunteers. Right now we are in and probably will be for quite awhile, the destruction mode, cleaning out the inside of the boat as just about everything in there is deteriorated beyond repair or further use, including all the wiring and electrical boxes.

The auxiliary engines are loose and ready to be removed when we have a crane available, most of the fuel tanks are removed and stored on the main deck until we get a fork lift to set them off, hopefully in the next few days. They are removing the tanks with a modified version of a cherry picker used to remove engines from cars, but it is a 13’ drop to the ground. Once on the ground the tanks are going to have to be cleaned out real good as they have quite a bit of dirt and foreign material in them. At some time or another the stern of the boat has been under water including the auxiliary engines so once they are out we are going to have to see if it is worth the effort to try and rebuild them or scrap them and buy new ones. A lot of the minor stuff has also been removed from the inside.

I was able to obtain a 45’ storage trailer (donated for the duration by the Deland Truck Sales) that has been backed in behind the boat, but so far have been have been unable to find a second one, but still working on it. I have made arrangements with a local electric company to install a temporary power pole, but they haven’t done it yet. I made arrangements for some scaffolding to be delivered over a month ago, ( donated) but that hasn’t showed up yet. I hate to bug people for a freebee but I guess I’m going to have to. Right now we are using long extension cords from the museum and because the fence hadn’t been put up yet we were reluctant to put up any permanent structures around the outside of the boat, so there hasn’t been a whole lot done to the outside yet. BUT, 3 months to the day of the boats arrival they finally got the 6’ fence up this week ( supposed to have been done within the first 3 weeks ) BUT, no gates yet, the fence company ran out of hinges and doesn’t know for sure when they will get some. ( The fence was donated by the City of Deland )

Mother Nature has done her best to detour our efforts several Saturdays. Granted they are working mostly on the inside of the boat, but there are 4 very large openings in the main deck that do very little to protect the people working down below , beside all the tool boxes, trucks open, etc for the rain to get in and Florida is the lighting capital of the United States and it does live up to it’s name. Yesterday we had about eight live lightning rods on the main deck at one time helping to lift the tanks out, but the storm only lasted about 30 minutes and there wasn’t much rain to it, just lightning.

Mr. McCray is still doing battle with the powers to be in Tallahassee to turn loose of the money they promised us 2 years ago. The St. Paul Marine Insurance Co. still hasn’t coughed up any of the money they owe us for their clients damn near scuttling the boat 2 years ago. That is still in litigation.

I haven’t heard anything more about the engines still setting outside and open to the elements in Port everglades. Other than those few little things, everything else is going along smoothly. Please review the pictures below and enjoy them . All were taken between August 15th and September 27th 2003.

Respectfully Jerry

 


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Vietnam gunboat finds home.
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NEWS LETTER 31 AUGUST 2003

PROGRESS

WE HAVE RECEIVED THE USE OF A TRACTOR TRAILER BOX FROM DELAND
TRUCK SALES AND THAT HAS BEEN MOVED INTO POSITION BEHIND THE BOAT, STEPS
HAVE BEEN BUILT FOR EASY ACCESS. HEAVY FLOOR DECKING HAS BEEN PLACED
ON THE GROUND FOR A SAFE WORK AREA, WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED BY WORK
BENCHES, CANOPY COVERS, POWER DROP HOOK UPS AND A 10 by 20 STORAGE
BUILDING THAT WILL SERVE AS THE SHIP’S CARPENTERS SHOP.

ALL OF THE FUEL TANKS HAVE BEEN LOOSENED AND ARE READY TO BE LIFTED
OUT OF THE BOAT. THE CABINETRY HAS BEEN PARTIALLY BROKEN DOWN AND STORED AND WORK IS PROCEEDING IN THE ENGINE BAY, ALL HARDWARE IN THE
BOAT WILL BE REMOVED FOR RECONDITIONING AND TO PROVIDE COMPLETE
ACCESS TO THE HULL.

MOST OF THE OUTSIDE WORK ON THE BOAT AND REMOVAL OF EQUIPMENT
IS ON HOLD TILL THE FENCE IS INSTALLED. ONCE THE FENCE IS IN PLACE THE
REMOVAL OF EQUIPMENT CAN BEGIN AND MATERIAL CAN BE STORED IN A SECURE
COMPOUND.

LOOKING AHEAD

BOB MCCRAY HAS TO BE IN TALLAHASSEE ON 16 SEPT 2003 FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE PTF 3 BOAT PROJECT TO THE FLORIDA HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUREAU. THE BOAT HAS BEEN CLEARED TO RECEIVE UP TO 
$ 300,000.00 IN FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WE ARE IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER HISTORICAL PROJECTS IN THE STATE.

MONEY TREE

GERRY ( BOATS ) MILLHOLEN IS TAKING OVER THE FUND RAISING ASPECT
OF THE PROJECT. A BROWN WATER NAVY VETERAN OF VIET NAM, ‘BOATS’ IS A WELCOMED ADDITION TO THE PROJECT. PHONE 407/ 402-0190

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING A SERIES OF INCENTIVES FOR SPONSORS WHO CONTRIBUTE MONEY AND SERVICES TO THE BOAT, ITEMS SUCH AS
EMBROIDERED BOAT JACKETS, POLO SHIRTS, PLAQUES, CERTIFICATES, HATS
AND T-SHIRTS. THESE INCENTIVES WILL BE CATAGORIZED UNDER SPECIFIED
MONEY AMOUNTS CONTRIBUTED TO THE BOAT.

DONATION CHECKS SHOULD BE MADE OUT TO BSA TROOP 544 – PT BOAT PTF 3
AND MAILED TO 
PTF 3 RESTORATION PROJECT
BOY SCOUT TROOP 544
P.O. BOX 740789
ORANGE CITY, FL 32774-0789

SCROUNGE DEPT-  FOR ANY PARTY WISHING TO DONATE, BOY SCOUT TROOP 544 IS A 501 C3 ORGANIZATION, DONATIONS ARE TAX DEDUCTABLE.

TOOLS - ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOAN OR GIVE, WE WILL BE ASKING TOOL COMPANIES AND HARDWARE TO DONATE AND DISCOUNT ITEMS THAT WE WILL NEED.

SCAFFOLDS – NEEDED TO GO AROUND THE BOAT, FOR A SAFE WORK PLATFORM.

ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS 
CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com.

FEEDBACK - PLEASE SEND SUGGESTIONS AND IDEAS TO BOB MCCRAY AT
Redbarn2@earthlink.net 

SINCERELY,
ROBERT MCCRAY
PROJECT MANAGER


BSA TROOP 544; ROBERT MCCRAY; 1825 W. FRENCH AVE.; ORANGE CITY, FL 32763; TEL: 800/ 694-7161; FAX: 386/775-1130; redbarn2@earthlink.net 

 

07/31/03     ATTENTION ALL HANDS 

JUST A REMINDER THAT WE ARE WORKING SATURDAY 2 AUG 2003, BRING TOOLS PUTTY KNIVES AND PAINT SCRAPPERS ORBITAL AND STRAIGHT SANDERS, WORK GLOVES, ETC... CLEAN UP IN ENGINE ROOM AND TANK GALLERY, HEADS WILL NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND GALLEY.

 I'LL BE ON SITE AT 8 AM AND WILL WORK AS LONG AS THE WEATHER HOLDS. BRING YOUR OWN REFRESHMENTS AND SNACKS IT WILL BE HOT AND HUMID. 

THE BOAT IS LOCATED AT THE NAVAL AIR STATION MUSEUM, DELAND 910 BISCAYNE BLVD, DELAND ( DELAND AIRPORT ). MY CELL IS 386/ 747-8275 

THANKS ROBERT MCCRAY redbarn2@earthlink.net

 

07/25/03     BE IT EVER SO HUMBLE, THERE IS NO PLACE LIKE HOME

PTF # 3 HOME AT LAST

After 19 months of just about every feeling from complete happiness to the very epitome of frustration and aggravation and back to the feeling of overwhelming joy PTF 3 is home at last at the Naval Air Museum, Sidney Taylor Field, Deland, Florida and it sure looks good resting there.

Our leaders in Tallahassee had absolutely no sense of humor in letting us make the transit from Edgewater to Deland in daylight, therefore we were forced to bring our beloved PTF # 3 home under cover of darkness. The forces to be began massing a little after 0000 Friday the 25th of July 2003 at the gate by Hwy 1 and by 0040 everyone was there including our 3 trusty escorts, compliments of the Volusia County Sheriff’s Office in patrol cars. 

At 0120, 2 of the escorts and myself hit the hwy followed by the third deputy, than 2 service trucks with flashing yellow lights and the boat, all 80 feet long and 24 1/2 feet wide of her, needless to say we took up the entire width of 2 lanes, Hwy 1 is a 4 lane road. Running about 15 mph we made it to Canal St. in New Smyrna Beach( Business Hwy 44) at 0155, where we had to make a left turn and cross the railroad tracks where, I understand, they hit the first snag, a train was coming and they had to back up, then afterward they had a hell of a time getting some lady to back up so the boat could complete the turn without crushing her car. I thought it was taking an awful long time and started back, but then they came into site and we were back on the road again, 4 lane Hwy 44. 

Traffic was absolutely nil so me and one of the lead cops beat it for the 7-11 at the intersection of Hwys 44 & 415, got a cup of coffee and waited for the rest of the gang to get there and make the right turn onto Hwy 415, which they did at 0244. Now it could get a little sticky. Hwy 415 is a 2 lane road, all 10 miles to Hwy 92. One of the lead cops went ahead of me and the other lead cop and run the on comers off to the side and the other cop and I ran side by side to see that they stayed there. Wasn’t to bad, most were happy to accommodate us, like the bully on the playground, except one garbage truck driver, I thought for a minute the cop was going to have to shoot him to get his co-operation, but he finally did co-operate. 

We arrived at and made the left turn onto Hwy 92 (4 lane hwy) at 0330, the last leg of the trip to the Deland Airport. About half way across Hwy 92 I called Bob McCray, in the boat, and ask where he wanted them to turn into the airport, he told me and I took off for the Handy Way store just before that, got another big cup of coffee and sat at the entrance waiting for them . 

We turned into the airport at 0420 and arrived at the museum at 0430. After the mover bulldozed a tree out of the way they positioned the boat. Everybody left by 0530 and came back later and positioned the boat permanently, took the wheels out from under both ends of the trailer and cleaned up the rest of the equipment that had been used. 

God willing the boat will be restored to it’s original glory and put back on the St. Johns River as a floating and working museum and Sea Scout training vessel, to be enjoyed by all for a long, long time. 

Thank you Robert McCray and your staff of assistants and volunteers for making this all possible. 

See the pictures below that I took on Wednesday July 23rd, getting the boat ready to move the next night and Friday the 25th at the Deland Naval Air Museum. I tried a few night pictures but none of them came out.

Respectfully

Jerry Fifield

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Boat ready to move closer to highway. Not allowed to leave before 0100 7/25/03. Port side shot of added beam. Cross beam added to rear of trailer for more support for bow
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07/25/03     ATTENTION ALL HANDS

THE VIETNAM WAR PT BOAT, PTF 3 WAS MOVED
FROM EDGEWATER, FL TO THE DELAND NAVAL AIR
STATION MUSEUM IN DELAND, FL.. STARTING AT
1:30 AM, THIS MORNING, THE MOVE TOOK 3 HOURS 
TO COVER 43 MILES WITH NO PROBLEMS. THE BOAT 
IS RESTING ON A STEEL FRAME, AND IS WELL BRACED.

MORE INFO WILL BE COMING WITH PHOTOS IN THE 
NEXT NEWS LETTER, IN A FEW DAYS.

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP

ROBERT MCCRAY


07/24/03     PRESS RELEASE

THE VIETNAM PT BOAT PTF 3, WILL BE MOVED TONIGHT
AT 1 AM FRIDAY, 25 JULY 03. THE BOAT WILL BE TRANSPORTED
BY YOUNGBLOOD MOVERS FROM THE 4015 U.S. HWY 1 
EDGEWATER, FL ( NEXT TO BOSTON WHALER MFG. ) LOCATION 

NORTH ON U.S. HWY 1 TO HWY 44,
WEST ON HWY 44 TO S.R. 415 ( TAMOKA FARMS RD. )
NORTH ON S.R. 415 TO U.S. HWY 92 ( SPEEDWAY BLVD )
WEST ON HWY 92 TO THE DELAND AIRPORT
THE BOAT WILL BE PARKED AT 910 BISCAYNE BLVD AT
THE DELAND AIRPORT, DELAND, FL.

THE TRIP IS EXPECTED TO TAKE 3-4 HOURS

A MEETING FOR ALL INTERESTED IN THE BOAT WILL BE
AT 9 AM SATURDAY MORNING, 26 

ROBERT MCCRAY


07/23/03     ATTENTION ALL HANDS

OK BOYS AND GIRLS, WE HAVE RECEIVED A VERBAL OK
TO MOVE THE BOAT, AT 1 AM FRIDAY MORNING 25 JULY 03,
LOVELY TIME AND SHORT NOTICE. THE FLORIDA DOT
WON'T LET US MOVE ON THE WEEKEND. THE IMPORTANT
THING IS, THAT WE ARE MOVING THE BOAT.

WE ARE SUPPOSE TO RECEIVE THE HARD COPY TOMORROW
MORNING. AS SOON AS I RECEIVE IT, I WILL CONTACT ALL WITH
THE OFFICIAL NEWS.

TODAY THE BOAT WAS MADE READY AND MOVED TO THE
FRONT OF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO U.S. HWY 1. THE BRIDGE
AND ENGINE ROOM HATCH WERE MOVED TO THE NAVAL AIR
STATION DELAND AND ARE SITTING ON A FLAT BED TRAILER.

THANKS, I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED.


ROBERT MCCRAY


07/22/03     ATTENTION ALL HANDS

NEW UPDATE.

WE ARE GOING OVER TO THE BOAT TOMORROW TO
READY THE BOAT TO MOVE. THE MOVER, TOM YOUNGBLOOD
WILL PLACE THE FRONT ROAD WHEELS UNDER THE 
TRAILER AND MOVE THE BOAT AWAY FROM THE RIVER 
AND CLOSER TO U.S. HWY 1. THIS WAY THE BOAT WILL
ROLL AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY, THE BRIDGE WILL
BE PLACED ON THE FLAT BED AND MAY HEAD OVER
TO THE DELAND NAVAL AIR MUSEUM TOMORROW.


ROBERT MCCRAY


07/22/03      ATTENTION ALL HANDS
 
 THE BOAT MOVE IS ON HOLD, FLORIDA DEPT OF TRANSPORTATION
ARE HOLDING THINGS UP WITH PAPERWORK.  UNDER NORMAL
CONDITIONS INVOLVING MOVING LARGE ITEMS SUCH AS A HOUSE
ALL PERMITS GO THROUGH LOCAL OFFICES IN DELAND. BUT, SINCE
THIS IS A BOAT, TALLAHASSEE DOT HAS TO PUT THEIR 2 CENTS
INTO THE MIX.  THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT ROUTE WE SHOULD
USE BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING FROM OUT DATED MAPS, THEY
DIDN'T REALIZE THAT SOME OF THE ROADS WE ARE USING ARE
NOW 4 LANE HIGHWAYS.  SO NOW THEY ARE TALKING TO THE LOCAL
DELAND OFFICE TO ACQUIRE THE PROPER ROAD INFO, IT IS
FUBAR OR MAYBE SNAFU TIME.  IT LOOKS LIKE SUNDAY IS THE
EARLIEST OR SOMETIME NEXT WEEK.
 
    I WILL NOTIFY EVERYONE AS SOON AS I KNOW THE DATE
SORRY FOR THE DELAY. IT MOST CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE WE
NEED TO BUY SOME FOLKS GLASS BELT BUCKLES SO THEY
CAN SEE WHERE THEY ARE GOING.
 
ROBERT MCCRAY

07/13/03     ATTENTION ALL HANDS

I JUST RECEIVED A CALL FROM THE BOAT MOVER,
TOM YOUNGBLOOD, AND HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
MOVE THE BOAT ON 16 JULY 03, AS PLANNED. CONTRACT
OBLIGATIONS HAVE GOTTEN IN THE WAY. HE
HAS SCHEDULED FOR 9 AM ON WEDNESDAY 23 JULY 03,
TO MOVE THE BOAT, THE BRIDGE MAY BE MOVED
THE DAY BEFORE TO CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER
OF TRUCKS.

SORRY FOR AN INCONVENIENCE

ROBERT MCCRAY
redbarn2@earthlink.net


NEWS LETTER - 27 JUNE 2003 

THIS IS THE FIRST OF A MONTHLY NEWS LETTER THAT WILL KEEP ALL APPRAISED OF THE PROGRESS OF THE RESTORATION OF THE VIETNAM WAR PT BOAT, PATROL TORPEDO FAST 3. ONE OF THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS, HAS BEEN IDENTIFICATION OF THE BOATS ORIGINAL NAME ‘ FAST AND NASTY ‘ AND A PHOTO OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN UNIFORM PATCH, PROVIDED BY PTF 3 CREWMAN TOM HUSTON. ADDITIONAL FORMER CREW HAVE BEEN MAKING CONTACT AND PROVIDING INVALUABLE INFORMATION, BILL MOREO OF DAVENPORT, FL, AND MARK TONDEL OF LEE, MA. ADDITIONAL HISTORICAL INFORMATION AND CURRENT PHOTOS OF RECENT EFFORTS CAN BE FOUND AT www.ptfnasty.com

ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING 7 PM, THURSDAY 10 JULY 2003, AT THE DELAND NAVAL AIR STATION MUSEUM 910 BISCAYNE BLVD, DELAND, FL. OPEN TO ALL, THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING IS FOR INTRODUCTIONS, INITIAL GOALS AND SET THE TONE OF THE RESTORATION. 

PROGRESS 

MAY 22 –24, 2003 PTF 3 WAS PUSHED TOWED FROM FT. LAUDERDALE, FL TO EDGEWATER, FL BY MARITIME TRANSPORT TUG OF STUART, FL. THE BOAT WAS DOCKED AT THE FORMER CONSOLIDATED PRE-STRESS CONCRETE CO. NEXT TO BOSTON WHALER MFG. BOSTON WHALER HAS BEEN SUPPLYING SUPPORT FOR THE BOAT IN THE FORM OF ELECTRICAL POWER AND THE USE OF THEIR DOCKS. 

JUNE 7, 2003 PREP FOR HAUL OUT, A WORK PARTY OF NINE SPENT MOST OF SATURDAY CUTTING LOOSE WIRING AND REMOVING BOLTS HOLDING THE BRIDGE TO THE DECK. AMMO READY LOCKERS WERE CUT LOOSE, IN SHORT ALL ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE FREED PRIOR TO DISASSEMBLY . 

JUNE 13, 2003 HAUL OUT – STARTING AT 7 AM, BOAT CREW MEMBERS, MAXIM CRANE PERSONNEL AND YOUNGBLOOD HOUSE MOVERS, BEGAN THE PROCESS OF LIFTING THE BOAT FROM THE WATER AND PREPARING IT TO MOVE OVERLAND TO DELAND, FL. FIRST THE AMMO READY LOCKERS WERE LIFTED OFF, THEN THE BRIDGE WAS HOISTED CLEAR OF THE DECK AND SET ON TIMBERS, AND AT NOON THE HULL WAS LIFTED BY TWO CRANES WORKING IN TANDEM ROTATED 90 DEGREES AND SLID BACKWARDS ONTO IT’S TRANSPORT RIG THAT HAD BEEN SITUATED BETWEEN THE TWO CRANES. THE BOAT WILL REMAIN IN THIS POSITION TILL THE MIDDLE OF JULY, WHEN SHE WILL BE MOVED TO THE NAVAL AIR STATION MUSEUM, DELAND, FL. FOR THE TWO YEAR RESTORATION PROJECT.


Friday The 13TH - An Uplifting Day For PTF # 3

Friday June 13th, 2003 at Edgewater, Florida dawned and was followed by a beautiful sunrise that continued to shine on the volunteers and leaders of scout troop 544 all day long.

I arrived there at 0650 AM, Robert McCray and several other volunteers had already arrived and were at work preparing for the lifting of PTF # 3 from the water to the trailer that is to transport her to Deland for the restoration. All were in good spirits and ready for the big day. The first crane, rated at 165 tons was already there and set up at the boat as it had arrived the day before. At 0735 the first crane crew arrived. At 0748 the second crane arrived, rated at 200 tons, (both of these figures were obtained from the crane operators), and began setting up right behind the first and parallel with the boat. At 0750 the first crane with the volunteers assisting on deck, started removing the four ammo boxes. At 0835, with ammo boxes on the ground, attention was turned to removing the bridge. The bridge had to be removed because of the height of the boat on the trailer. The electrical utility companies have no sense of humor when it comes to ripping out their cross highway high tension wires and traffic signals and they charge accordingly to replace them. The bridge was on the ground at 0850. At that we are still at 15'8" so the vent to the engine room will have to be removed also.


Now for the biggy, the event we have all been anticipating, with some concern, mainly because of the horror stories we have been told about previous lifting the boats out of the water, being crushed, cracked in half etc. At 0900 the slings were ready and lowered into the water, forward and aft. They tried walking the slings into position but that wasn't successful, so Mr. McCray had to dawn his wet suit and go for a morning dip in the Intercoastal Waterway and guide the slings into place. We were supposed to have a second diver but he couldn't come at the last minute because of personal business, so Bob had to do it all, which was no easy task because those slings are heavy and he had to keep going back and forth from side to side and the visibility underwater was a foot or less. We did have a John boat in the water with our trusty eagle scout and his sidekick Andy McCray manning the oars to assist Bob if he needed it and to bring him back t9 shore. The stem slings were rigged first, then the bow and by 0935 the first attempt to lift the boat out of the water began. Before the boat completely cleared the water the operator of the second crane determined that the weight on the stern slings was not evenly distributed and at 1045 it was lowered back down in the water to readjust them. This took some time, but we were in no hurray and this was no time to have something go wrong and with the adverse conditions Bob had to work with in the water it was no piece of cake. At 1155 with what appeared that everything was ready once again the cranes started lifting the boat again. When it had cleared the water about a foot, they let it hang there for a couple minutes. When they started lifting it again it was one fluid motion, up and over the sea wall and down onto the trailer. Those two cranes worked as one. At 1215 the boat was setting on the trailer safe and sound and dripping, blocked up. I shouldn't have to remind anyone of us who are or have been on active duty how long and how hard we drilled and practiced daily to get a unit or units working together as a team. Those scout leaders, volunteers and crane personnel worked together as a team like they had been doing it for years, it was beautiful and a credit to all of them. When the boat was about halfway up the seawall, McCray, still out in the water let out a "yahoo" that I was surprised he was capable of because he was pooped and deservedly so. just goes to show you the ole farts can still hack it. The mover told me that it would be 3 weeks before he would be able to get back there to move it because he is so busy. He also gave the route he is going to travel to bring it to Deland. I came back that way and did it in 50 minutes, but I imagine it's going to take the boat 6 to 8 hours to make the journey. Maybe we can have it done by the 4th of July and make a real good second reason to celebrate.

Sincerely, Jerry Fifield


[The following pictures were taken and furnished by Jerry.]

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DAN                                                                                    13 JUNE 03
 

    WELL, WE PULLED IT OFF, ON FRIDAY THE 13TH, PTF 3 IS RESTING COMFORTABLY IN IT'S CRADLE ON THE BOAT MOVING RIG.  SHE WAS LIFTED OUT NEAR NOON TODAY, FIRST THE AMMO LOCKERS WERE FLOWN OFF BY CRANE THEN THE BRIDGE, THREE HOURS LATER THE HULL WAS LIFTED OUT.  IT TOOK ABOUT TEN TRIPS UNDER THE HULL BEFORE WE HAD THE STRAPS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. VISIBILITY WAS AT WAS AT 6 INCHES AND YOU COULD SEE SHAPES AT 1 1/2 FEET, THERE WAS SO MUCH SEDIMENT IN THE WATER USING A LIGHT WAS POINTLESS, SO IT WAS MOSTLY BY BRAILLE, LOTS OF BARNACLES.

 
    THE OLD GIRL IS SOLID OUR SHIPWRIGHT BOB JUNKINS STAYED BELOW DECK TO CHECK DEFECTION OF THE HULL WHEN THE TENSION WAS TAKEN ON THE STRAPS AND THE HULL DEFLECT ABOUT 1/8 OF AN INCH AT FULL LOAD..  PICTURES WILL BE FORTH COMING AS SOON AS THEY ARE READY. 
 
ROBERT MCCRAY

06-08-03

     THE BRIDGE WAS SEPARATED FROM THE DECK THIS WEEKEND, WE EIGHT PEOPLE CRAWLING THROUGH THE BOAT, ON TOP OF FUEL TANKS TO TO GET THE BRIDGE CUT LOOSE.  AMMO CANS ARE ALSO FREE AND WILL BE REMOVED FIRST AND THE
BRIDGE SECOND.  I HAVE TO GET KEEL HEIGHT AND KEEL BOTTOM TO DECK HEIGHT ALONG THE  LENGTH OF THE BOAT TOMORROW,  I'LL DIVE UNDER TO GET THOSE MEASUREMENTS.
 
    THE BOAT MOVING EQUIPMENT WAS SET IN PLACE WEDNESDAY AND RIGGING MEETING IS SET FOR TOMORROW AFTERNOON.  FRIDAY IS THE BIG DAY, WE SHOULD HAVE PLENTY OF PRESS COVERAGE.
 
    WE FOUND ANOTHER  I.D. PLATE IN THE BOAT, THIS TIME A TAG ON A TRANSFORMER WITH PTF 3 STAMPED INTO THE TAG WITH TRANSFORMER CODING INFORMATION.  WE ALSO FOUND A FLEET GUIDE BOOK IN THE CHART ROOM FOR KEY WEST DATED 1970, I WOULDN'T JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS THAT THE BOAT WAS THERE IN 1970 BECAUSE
THESE NAVIGATION BOOKS WERE HANDED OUT FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE BEING UPDATED. BUT IT'S SAYS THAT THE BOAT WAS IN THE KEYS IN 1970's.  POSSIBLY WITH TRIPS TO CUBA OR CENTRAL AMERICA, WHO KNOWS.
 
KEEP YOU POSTED, THANKS - ROBERT MCCRAY   redbarn2@earthlink.net
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06-08-03    Here is a great new article written by John Wolfson at the Orlando Sentinal Newspaper. This copy purchased from the online archives at the Orlando Sentinel.
OLD BOAT CARRIES ITS SECRETS
Orlando Sentinel; Orlando, Fla.; Jun 8, 2003; John Wolfson, Sentinel Staff Writer;

Abstract:
Big job. [Robert McCray], assistant scoutmaster, stands aboard the PTF-3, a Vietnam-era torpedo boat in Edgewater. PHOTOS BY BARBARA V. PEREZ/ORLANDO SENTINEL Rust. The engine room shows the wear and the neglect the old torpedo boat endured. An Orange City Boy Scout troop will restore the craft. PHOTOS BY BARBARA V. PEREZ/ORLANDO SENTINEL Worn. This Vietnam-era torpedo boat waits in Edgewater before being hauled to DeLand, where Boy Scouts will restore it. Examination. Robert McCray takes close look at the condition of the torpedo boat. The 80-foot craft was used mostly in secret.
Full Text: (Copyright 2003 by The Orlando Sentinel)

John Wolfson can be reached at jwolfson@orlandosentinel.comor 386- 851-7935.

EDGEWATER -- A handful of men and women walked to the end of a dock outside the Boston Whaler plant last week, nodding in admiration at the dilapidated old boat tied to a sea wall on the Indian River.

It was the kind of attention that eluded the boat as it rotted for nearly 25 years in a series of South Florida boatyards, another anonymous, engineless tub destined for scrap.

But the mystery behind the boat known as Patrol Torpedo Fast 3 and its heroic past have become clearer. And thanks to an Orange City Boy Scout troop, along with a small network of veterans, aficionados and amateur historians, so has its future.

The 80-footer was born of secrecy in 1962, when it was state of the art and the first of its kind: a deadly, blazing-fast, mahogany- hulled terror carrying out covert raids in North Vietnam before America officially entered the Vietnam War. Some experts, in fact, think the 3-boat helped ignite the war itself.

In another week or two, Boy Scout Troop 544, with lots of help, will begin the process of honoring that legacy. They will haul the decrepit vessel, its floorboards sagging, its electronics rusted, its paint peeling, to a museum in DeLand and spend two years returning the PTF-3 to its original condition.

That the 3-boat made it to Edgewater at all is, in some small way, redemption for the men who served on an entire class of boats that never officially existed, men whose contributions to the war have gone largely unrecognized.

SCOUT TROOP NEEDED A BOAT

Robert McCray knew only that he needed a boat four years ago. Troop 544 had plans to start a Sea Scouts program, teaching boating skills to teens, and it was up to the assistant scoutmaster to find the right vessel. He checked out at a couple of shrimpers and some other boats, but nothing that got him excited.

About two and a half years ago, he was looking over a ship- broker's list and noticed a Vietnam-era patrol boat docked in South Florida. McCray contacted the owner and persuaded him to donate the boat, appraised at $50,000, to qualify for a tax write-off. The Scouts hired a tugboat to push the boat up the Intracoastal Waterway from Fort Lauderdale to Edgewater, a trip that was delayed for more than a year because of an accident during the first attempt in January 2002.

"I didn't know that PT boats even existed in Vietnam," McCray said, leaning on an on-deck ammunition bin. "I thought those things were exclusive to World War II."

Lots of people think that, mostly because the Vietnam PTF boats were so secret it's difficult to verify much about them. Known as the Nasty class, they were, in some ways, a souped-up big brother to the World War II PT boats made famous by President John F. Kennedy's heroics.

Jim Thomas used to work on the PTFs during the Vietnam War, when they were based in Da Nang, South Vietnam.

"Technically, if you look at Navy history, we weren't there," he said from his home in Moncks Corner, S.C., "We weren't even supposed to have a camera. There were things I didn't even know because I didn't need to."

THEN, THE GULF OF TONKIN

All the secrecy was necessary because the boats, carrying crews of 16 or more and cruising at top speeds of about 50 mph, were attacking targets in North Vietnam well before the United States had entered the war.

One such raid took place July 31, 1964, and, as a Naval History Magazine article details, helped escalate the conflict into a full- scale war.

Early that morning, four PTF boats, including the 3-boat, hit two North Vietnamese islands, damaging a communications tower, a water tower and some buildings. Enraged, North Vietnam retaliated two days later, sending torpedo boats after the USS Maddox, a destroyer collecting intelligence in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Two days after that, North Vietnamese boats were said to have again attacked American destroyers, though many historians now doubt those attacks happened. Regardless, the Tonkin Gulf incident persuaded Congress to authorize military action in Southeast Asia.

GREAT SCRAP DISCOVERY

Jim Thomas got emotional that spring day last year.

He and McCray had traveled to a boatyard near Great Bridge, Va., looking for spare parts. The yard, they knew, housed several of the old PTFs.

The importance of the stealthy boats had dwindled with the outbreak of war nearly 40 years before; the PTFs, after all, had always been best at doing America's work while pretending America wasn't even in the region. There was no need to pretend anymore.

The boats were eventually sent home for a few years of domestic service. Before long they were decommissioned and sold for scrap.

Thomas, 63, used to fine-tune the PTFs in Vietnam, keeping them in perfect order. He even polished their engines.

So he almost cried when he saw those boats in Virginia. They were lined up in a row, slowly eroding, their keels sunk in the sand. Weeds grew through some of them, their hulls ripped with chain saws to remove engines.

Thomas served five tours of duty in Vietnam, much of it in secret, on boats that never officially existed. And decades later, in those same boats, now crumbling, he heard whispers of his own doubt.

"You see something that I had worked on and had cherished, all of our work was just rotting away," he said. "It gave me a feeling about Vietnam: What had I accomplished? I thought about 50,000 people dead."

CHANGING VIEW OF HISTORY

Dan Withers understands. He's also a Vietnam vet. Though he never served on the Nasty boats, he runs a Web site dedicated to them.

"People don't give a damn about Vietnam," he said from his home in Washington state. "It sickens me. [The boats] were so grand and glorious in their efforts. They were ahead of their time."

Among other things, his site, www.ptfnasty.com, lists the history of all 22 Nasty boats (and four Osprey Class PTFs). "None of us, except the people who served on them, had any idea they ever existed," he said. The site, he said, is dedicated to changing that.

A few other PTFs can be found in museums, and one is used as a research vessel. Withers' site details efforts to buy and preserve the six PTFs that remain for sale.

McCray said restoring the 3-boat, creating a "living history museum," will honor the vets who served on the PTFs.

He figures the project will cost about $400,000 and is hoping for federal and state grants. He also has enlisted the help of several organizations and about 20 vets, who will do much of the work.

The restoration at the DeLand Naval Air Museum will be open to the public, McCray said, and the Scouts will offer ongoing tours once the project is completed and the 3-boat is docked in the St. Johns River.

The boats' legacies will be further served, he said, by using the PTF-3 to teach boating skills to a new generation.

"You're dealing with a case of history here that very few people know anything about," he said. "These guys were not recognized because this all never happened. These boats were never there."

Boy Scouts will take two years to restore Patrol Torpedo Fast 3, a veteran of Tonkin Gulf fighting.

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PHOTO: Big job. Robert McCray, assistant scoutmaster, stands aboard the PTF-3, a Vietnam-era torpedo boat in Edgewater. PHOTOS BY BARBARA V. PEREZ/ORLANDO SENTINEL PHOTO: Rust. The engine room shows the wear and the neglect the old torpedo boat endured. An Orange City Boy Scout troop will restore the craft. PHOTOS BY BARBARA V. PEREZ/ORLANDO SENTINEL PHOTO: Worn. This Vietnam-era torpedo boat waits in Edgewater before being hauled to DeLand, where Boy Scouts will restore it. PHOTO: Examination. Robert McCray takes close look at the condition of the torpedo boat. The 80-foot craft was used mostly in secret.


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05-30-03

PTF # 3 ALMOST HOME

May 27, 2003 Deland, Florida

FINALLY, after months and months of planning, anticipation, disappointment, aggravation, exasperation, tons of letter writing and other paper work and untold road miles back and forth to Ft Lauderdale, Florida, PTF # 3 made it's journey North on the Intercoastal Waterway to the Boston Whaler Plant and came into view of the cheering crowd of onlookers at 2:35 PM Saturday, May 24, 2003 at Edgewater, Florida off u.s. Hwy # 1, about 40 miles from Deland and about 30 miles south of Daytona Beach with Robert McCray and another adult leader of the scout troop as her crew being pushed by a tug boat. It was really good to finally see her this close to home.

Along with this letter I'm sending several pictures I took of her arrival. Several of the troops scouts, parents and others were there to greet here including the, local NBC TV affiliate station with newsman Ron Kendrick, who interviewed Mr. McCray and was aired that night on the local channel the covers all of central Florida.

Picture 1 - PTF# 3 is passing Lighthouse Point @ 2:15 pm 5/24/03 which is about 3 miles south of the Boston Whaler plant.

Pictures # 2 thru 4- PTF # 3 coming into view and being pushed toward the pier. That is Bob McCray on the bow with the line (not rope) in his hands.

Pictures 5 & 6-- PTF# 3 is moored to the pier. She will remain there for the next 2 to 3 weeks at which time she will be lifted out of the water and placed on the special built trailer that will transport her to Deland. She will remain there at Edgewater on the trailer for another week or so to allow her to drain and dry out somewhat, hopefully losing about 10 to 15 tons of water before being transported to the Naval Air Station Museum at the Deland airport for the restoration, anticipated to take about 2 years.

Sincerely - Jerry Fifield

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05/25/03

DAN 

ATTACHED ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE TRIP, NOW THE FUN PART OF LIFTING THE BOAT IS NEXT, I'M MEETING WITH A CRANE OPERATOR TOMORROW WHO HAS 29 FT SPREADER BARS AND A 500 TON CRANE. WE'LL HAVE TO BREAK OUT THE DIVE GEAR FOR RIGGING THE STRAPS, THE DOCKAGE IS 6 FT DEEP AT LOW TIDE AND 9 FT AT HIGH, SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO WORK. AND A SAND BAR TO BLOCK WAVE ACTION FROM RIVER TRAFFIC. 

KEEP YOU POSTED, ROBERT 

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05/24/03 

ATTENTION ALL HANDS

 
    IT'S OFFICIAL PTF 3 HAS MADE PORT.  PTF 3 DOCKED
IN EDGEWATER, FLORIDA AT 2:30PM SATURDAY 24 MAY 03
THE BOAT WAS PUSHED NORTH 250 MILES, WITH ONLY
ONE INCIDENT, FRIDAY NIGHT A LARGE YACHT CAME
CLOSE TO THE BOAT AND CAUSED THE TUG AND BOAT
TWIST, RIPPING LOOSE THE PORT STERN CLEAT.  THIS
WAS REPAIRED BY SALVAGING BOLTS FROM THE ANCHOR
CLEAT ON THE BOW AND REMOUNTING THE STERN CLEAT,
THE REST OF THE TRIP WAS UNEVENTFUL.
 
    WE HAVE LOCATED ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT REPAIR TAGS
AND MARKINGS IN THE BOAT WITH THE ' PTF 3 ' STAMP.  WE
EXPECT TO FIND MORE WHEN WE CLEAN AROUND THE FUEL
TANKS.
 
    WE EXPECT TO LIFT THE BOAT FROM THE WATER WITHIN
A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
 
    THANKS TO ALL AND I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED
 
ROBERT MCCRAY