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Comments and pictures from Norway
All the shots are interesting. I suspect the files tjeld
klasse 4.jpg and tjeld klasse 5.jpg are another class of boat
(wrong hull lines). The Elco shot is later (notice the radar
Now, the VERY interesting shots are the two in Tjeld klasse 2.
You will notice American flags present and American naval
officers in the audience.
Could the boat(s) be PTF-3 and/or PTF-4? They were originally
built to Norwegian specs AND you will notice they have torpedo
Now it is VERY, VERY interesting. I have made inquiries. We'll
find out what is in the shots eventually.
The pictures you sent were wonderful! Thank you very much.
Could you tell me about the two pictures in the file "Tjeld
klasse2.jpg? It looks like the launching of one of the Tjeld
class boats, but there are American flags present and American
naval officers in the audience. Is it possible these are
pictures showing the launching of PTF-3?
Thank you again for your time and assistance.
From: MMU [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:11 AM
To: Marshall, Chip
Subject: SV: US Navy PT boats and Nasty class boats
We have only some few pictures of the Elco class PT boats.
I send you some.
Morten Rudi Moe
"Marinemuseet 150år 5 oktober 2003"
Fra: Marshall, Chip [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sendt: 19. juli 2003 19:44
Emne: US Navy PT boats and Nasty class boats
To whom it may concern:
I am researching the history of US Navy PT boats (motor
after World War Two. A group of 80 foot long Elco class PT
sent to Norway in the early 1950s and used by the Royal
into the 1960s. Also, two firms built a total of 14 Tjeld/Nasty
boats (known as PTFs in the US Navy) for service in Viet Nam.
those boats were shipped directly to the United States (US
numbers PTF-3 and PTF-4). The rest were transported to Subic
Base in the Philippines for modifications and then sent to Da
Nam for duty. There might be some information of interest to
you at the
I am interested in obtaining pictures of the Elco class PT
boats in the
Royal Norwegian Navy and Nasty/Tjeld class boats under
being launched or tested for the US Navy and service in Viet
there someone specific I should communicate with? Do I have to
the museum or can I select photos from the USA?
Thank you for your time and any assistance.
Silver Spring, Maryland USA
I was looking at your very good site.
We are going to make a link to your site from ours.
In one of your pages you reffered to our old site.
Our new site is www.fmu.mil.no\marine
and we hope you can change this.
We have some drawings of the Nasty class but we miss drawings of the hull. Do you know of any who have drawing of the body
plan and/or the sheer lines ?
Morten Rudi Moe
tlf. 3303 3542 mobil 48028536
"Marinemuseet 150år i 2003"
Link to great photos:
[ A surprise E-mail! Here is the Norwegian version of the Nasty.
03-15-02 Hey, got some picture from the Norwegian Naval museum.
The first picture is Mr. Linge, (the father of Nasty/Tjeld class)
and the second is a Tjeld boat.
All the best Jonny Greff
October 25, 2000
Address to the museum
I´ not sure that you will find so much about KNM SKRE there but maybe
about Tjeld class. (that if you mail them) KNM Skrei build in 1966 at
båtservice verf a/s Mandal, Norway.
Now KNM Skrei belong to the naval museum in Horten, because of lack of
place in Horten are KNM Skrei laying in Haakonsvern Naval base. Because
the navy got new boats in the early 80´s end 70´s they transferred 6
tjeld class to" Karl johansvern naval base", Horten and 27.MTB
squadron was establish ( 1979). KNM Skrei was one of them.
27.MTB squadron belonged to the sea home guard. The squadron was
operating with tjeld class to around 1990. 27 squadron was official laid
down in 1993. KNM Skrei is one of three tjeld class who is still in
All the best,
October 26, 1000
From KNM SKREI.
of " KNM SKREI " P-380 one of three Tjeld class now
still are in Norway. KNM SKREI belongs to the naval museum.
|Chief engineers dream ?
Came over you web side, very interesting.
Have some pictures of some of the Tjeld class.
|1 pic is from exercise "Bold game
One of the tjeld class of 27 mtb squadron (sea home guard).
|2 pic from the home base at Horten (home
All the best
Lt Jonny Greff
MTB flotilla 30.
Royal Norwegian Navy
I only have a written history from one of the Norwegian officers
which was on Norwegian PT boats from 1949 to about 1965,
he was also on the Nasty on the testing before the Norwegian navy
accepted them and ordered 12 boats in 1958.
we got three different brand of radars for testing and since the Decca
came out best we decided to mount the Decca in the other boats...
So I cant say anything else than to take his words for it and say that it
was Decca onboard the Norwegian boats.
I am also telling you that if you want to speak/write to the man who
designed the Nasty
his name is :
Jan Herman Linge
Telefon: xx 47 66 90 50 52
This guy, Sverre E. Larsen,
own the last floating Nasty in Norway, earlier KNM Hai,
he bought the boat in 1992 and plans to restore it and use it
as "Norway's fastest museum".
Svela Marine AS
Telefon: xx 47 69 31 11 80
Telefaks:xx 47 69 31 86 22
Hopes anything of this helps,
I got a technical question for you. What kind of radar did the Norwegian Navy
Nasty/Tjeld class boats have? The first Nasty PTFs accepted by the
US Navy had the same radar. The later boats had a different radar. I am
told by some of the guys who were on the boats in Viet Nam and in the US that
the radar was a Decca 202. But a family friend that is a retired naval
officer identified the radar on the later boats as a Raytheon model of some kind.
can you be of any assistance clearing the question up?
Thanks a bunch,